Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker
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Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker
#2I guess the whole 'cheating on the emissions tests' scandal didn't hurt them too bad. Here I thought it would destroy them. Silly me!
Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker
#3Strategic law-breaking pays off more often than not.
In all seriousness, it shouldn't be much of a surprise given all the properties VW owns: Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Bentley, SEAT, etc.
Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker
#4Strategic law-breaking pays off more often than not. In all seriousness, it shouldn't be much of a surprise given all the properties VW owns: Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Bentley, SEAT, etc.
The number in question is vehicles sold, so the only relevant brands here are Volkswagen and Audi, really. Toyota also has Lexus and Scion.
Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker
#5One thing learned from: Volkswagen,airbnb,google,amazon,uber,facebook is to CHEAT. Illegal hotels, copyright infringement, skipping sales tax, fake cabs,profiting on personal data.. and now, illegal emission testing.
Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker
#6Strategic law-breaking pays off more often than not. In all seriousness, it shouldn't be much of a surprise given all the properties VW owns: Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Bentley, SEAT, etc.
The number in question is vehicles sold, so the only relevant brands here are Volkswagen and Audi, really. Toyota also has Lexus and Scion.
Not any more, Scion was shut down as a failed experiment last year.
Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker
#7I guess the whole 'cheating on the emissions tests' scandal didn't hurt them too bad. Here I thought it would destroy them. Silly me!
I'm honestly not sure the public really cared about this - was anyone really surprised that this was happening? Most people I spoke to at the time seemed to be of the opinion that all the other manufacturers would be found out next. My friend bought a Golf the week after the scandal broke; I've bought a Golf GTI and a Polo in the last six months. They're just, well, pretty decent cars.
Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker
#8Strategic law-breaking pays off more often than not. In all seriousness, it shouldn't be much of a surprise given all the properties VW owns: Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Bentley, SEAT, etc.
The number in question is vehicles sold, so the only relevant brands here are Volkswagen and Audi, really. Toyota also has Lexus and Scion.
The cheaper European brands like Skoda and SEAT also likely have significant volume. Skoda, for example, sold over a million vehicles—a non-trivial 10% of VW group's total.
Audi sold something like 1.8M, probably with better margins than Skoda, so it's certainly a more important brand, but SEAT and Skoda aren't trivial either.
Just in terms of car sales, SEAT + Skoda ≈ Audi.
Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker
#9Strategic law-breaking pays off more often than not. In all seriousness, it shouldn't be much of a surprise given all the properties VW owns: Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Bentley, SEAT, etc.
The number in question is vehicles sold, so the only relevant brands here are Volkswagen and Audi, really. Toyota also has Lexus and Scion.
Skoda as well - (a million cars a year)
Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker
#10I guess the whole 'cheating on the emissions tests' scandal didn't hurt them too bad. Here I thought it would destroy them. Silly me!
They've only now, in 2017, started the return program for the vehicles mentioned in that lawsuit, so this statistic probably doesn't reflect those returns yet.