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Re: Ask HN: How do you get into a niche field like SAP development?

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>How do you break into a career in a niche field like SAP development. OH GOD WHY? Have you used SAP? SAP is the most expensive pile of shit I have ever seen. No company in their right mind would deploy such a system at this point in time.

Yeah why, why anchor your career to a closed platform tied to a company ?

Re: Ask HN: How do you get into a niche field like SAP development?

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post #27

>How do you break into a career in a niche field like SAP development. OH GOD WHY? Have you used SAP? SAP is the most expensive pile of shit I have ever seen. No company in their right mind would deploy such a system at this point in time.

The SAP developers at my friend's company bill at $350/hour, minimum 3 hours.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

another minor nitpick-- Arthur Anderson had just recently spun off its consulting division as Accenture before the Enron scandal hit, not in reaction to it. It was a move that had been planned for some time. And I'm sure they thanked their lucky stars they completed the spin-off before Enron; Accenture was safely insulated from the fallout that absolutely killed Arthur Anderson.

Auditors cannot provide other services—mainly tax and IT—to audit clients for auditor independence (SOX in the US, Combined Code in the UK and similar laws are in application worldwide). All Big4 firms had to shelve their IT consulting to separate divisions or into new companies which most later sold: Arthur Anderson formed Anderson Consulting which later became Accenture. Ernst Young - Ernst & Young Consulting which…

I think Deloitte and Touche is the tax/audit arm, and Deloitte is the consulting arm.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get into a niche field like SAP development?

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A couple years ago, SAP courses were offered at my university; that should be an interesting route for students, but might also work for people who live close by - the explicit goal is to create more SAP programmers, and filling an open seat in a course that would happen anyway isn't expensive for SAP.

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post #27

>How do you break into a career in a niche field like SAP development. OH GOD WHY? Have you used SAP? SAP is the most expensive pile of shit I have ever seen. No company in their right mind would deploy such a system at this point in time.

The SAP developers at my friend's company bill at $350/hour, minimum 3 hours.

One of the main reasons I picked my current career is because it paid relatively well. I came to regret it. I got burnt out and grew to hate it. I wish I'd chosen a career in something I really loved instead, even if it didn't pay that well.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The SAP developers at my friend's company bill at $350/hour, minimum 3 hours.

One of the main reasons I picked my current career is because it paid relatively well. I came to regret it. I got burnt out and grew to hate it. I wish I'd chosen a career in something I really loved instead, even if it didn't pay that well.

Exactly this. I don't really care if it pays well if I hate the system. If I hate using it, if I don't believe in it, if I feel like it isn't the right product for the customers I am supposed to help.

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friends of mine are working in the SAP domain. They just got hired for junior consulting positions at SAP consulting companies (smaller ones). There they got the (expensive) trainings for some of the SAP modules, which they then use to implement customer solutions.

From what I see here in germany there are lots of these positions available, since SAP is everywhere. It seems to pay slightly better then average developer jobs, but as consultants the people there are often away on business.

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Aren't we seeing more and more companies (especially smaller companies who could never afford SAP to begin with) move towards programs like JIRA, and achieving much of the same. Where would JIRA (including its wealth of plugins) lack in terms of what SAP can offer?

Hmmmm. Does JIRA offer ERP solutions for small to mid-sized? I think Epicor is one of the ERPs that is sort of leading the pack for SMB.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get into a niche field like SAP development?

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post #27

>How do you break into a career in a niche field like SAP development. OH GOD WHY? Have you used SAP? SAP is the most expensive pile of shit I have ever seen. No company in their right mind would deploy such a system at this point in time.

The rates for SAP consultants are double to triple what I am getting.

For me, I would prefer to be paid three times what I am getting now to maintain someone's piece of crap legacy software, given that what I do now is maintain someone's piece of crap legacy software.

The difference in salary, put into perspective: on my current rates I need to save for three years to buy a Model 3. On double the salary, I can buy a Model S every other year.

Forget orange, disposable income is the new black.

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