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Re: Hacker/Designer Roommates

#41

Post by zakkap »

mjw wrote: post #40

Hm... might work ok if the hacking on projects together aspect of it was relatively low-pressure/low-commitment stuff, pitch in if you have time and find it interesting but don't guarantee anything. But otherwise mixing two big-ish commitments (living together stuff, work stuff) could lead to some unpleasant friction if things don't go well. Sometimes you do want a bit of separation between 'work time' and 'home time…

I think unpleasant friction can occur whether or not your living and working together.

Anyway - enough speculation. I'll let you know how it goes :)

Re: Hacker/Designer Roommates

#42

Post by mjw »

zakkap wrote: post #41
mjw wrote: post #40

Hm... might work ok if the hacking on projects together aspect of it was relatively low-pressure/low-commitment stuff, pitch in if you have time and find it interesting but don't guarantee anything. But otherwise mixing two big-ish commitments (living together stuff, work stuff) could lead to some unpleasant friction if things don't go well. Sometimes you do want a bit of separation between 'work time' and 'home time…

I think unpleasant friction can occur whether or not your living and working together. Anyway - enough speculation. I'll let you know how it goes :)

Heh. Yep true, although stuff like this can make it more or less likely!

In the end it'll depend entirely on the people I guess. Let us know how it turns out :)

Re: Hacker/Designer Roommates

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Post by zakkap »

Maro wrote: post #29
zakkap wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not looking for "2 copies" of myself... There are a lot of people on this thread who think what I'm doing is a good idea. Please explain why that moving in with a physics major and a poet is a better idea than what I have proposed?

You're looking for someone who is a fan of the same progr. lang. as you are, who uses the same text editor, the same VCS, and even the same libraries/frameworks. You're looking for a designer who uses the same version of Photoshop that you're using, or at least uses the version you think he/she should be using.

People are individuals.

Just because two people have 3 or 4 of the same things in common: Text Editor, Programming Language or whatever doesn't make them the same person.

Please look at other replies I have made where I explain that I'm lackadaisical on the requirements.

Also, thanks for your criticism.

Re: Hacker/Designer Roommates

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Post by zakkap »

samd wrote: post #38
random42 wrote: post #26

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Because you can talk/discuss something other than computer science / software development to them, hence you would not be limit your learnings in one direction. I, for one, would not like to bring what I do for living to my home. If I need to discuss my CS ideas, I can find likeminded people at other places, (say where I work/study), but living with "like minded" people 24 X 7, is not something I'd like to do. (Unles…

You are severely oversimplifying people. There is nothing that prevents a software developer from writing poetry, or a poet from designing websites. Interesting people have a wide range of hobbies and interests.

Thank you :)

Re: Hacker/Designer Roommates

#45

Post by zakkap »

Maro wrote: post #30
zakkap wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still have a life and other friends that I talk to about stuff other than CS and software development to... I also have an intense passion for learning and can never see myself as "limiting" myself in one direction. And, yes... The idea is to start a start-up. Hence why I am posting this on YCombinator. And mentioned Kickstarter.com in my link.

IMO: 1. You should not live with your co-founder(s). It's important that you can take breaks from the startup/each other by going home . 2. You should be friends with your co-founder(s), but not "best friends". A startup is a bussiness relationship which is incompatible with "best friendship". This is my experience based on doing my own startup and watching others.

Maro,

What startups have you helped to be successful?

Re: Hacker/Designer Roommates

#46

Post by zakkap »

pclark wrote: post #31
zakkap wrote: post #11

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I agree. I don't know if you checked out the link, but I designed and coded that in about one hour. I may not be a designer - but I definitely speak their language!

did you read your designer spec? it simply says "inspirational, loves photoshop and already using CS5" as a designer thats 0% content

I know it's a little scanty. Would you like to give me suggestions?

But please stay away from negative comments. I wrote the spec, how can I not have read it?

Re: Hacker/Designer Roommates

#47

Post by zakkap »

ugh wrote: post #27
zakkap wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enlighten me :)

It’s not really necessary to have the newest and greatest CS. Many designers I know skip a version or two and they generally tread carefully (i.e. take their time) when transitioning. Don’t judge designers by the version of the CS they are using :)

Agreed. I've removed it from the requirements. Thanks for the good suggestions! Please keep more coming.

Re: Hacker/Designer Roommates

#48

Post by csallen »

Maro wrote: post #24

Don't limit your perspective. It'd be a better idea to move in with a physics major and a poet than with 2 copies of yourself.

I have to disagree here. A good example is StarCraft. If you play StarCraft by yourself, you can become a good player. If all of your friends play StarCraft, however, then they can help you become a great player. The sheer popularity of the game in Korea is largely responsible for Korean dominance at the professional level.

Right now I'm a programmer living with a mechanical engineer, a finance major, and two biologists. I appreciate the worldly perspective they provide, but the fact is I'm missing out on a lot of news/discussion/debate/learning related to coding.

If you want to be the best, you need constant feedback from other people who share your expertise. For most things in life, there are diminishing returns on how far you can get by yourself. It's not a coincidence that the best and brightest in any field tend to cluster in the same area.

Re: Hacker/Designer Roommates

#49

Post by zakkap »

csallen wrote: post #48
Maro wrote: post #24

Don't limit your perspective. It'd be a better idea to move in with a physics major and a poet than with 2 copies of yourself.

I have to disagree here. A good example is StarCraft. If you play StarCraft by yourself, you can become a good player. If all of your friends play StarCraft, however, then they can help you become a great player. The sheer popularity of the game in Korea is largely responsible for Korean dominance at the professional level. Right now I'm a programmer living with a mechanical engineer, a finance major, and two biologi…

Thank you :)

I completely agree.

StarCraft Two is coming out soon!

Re: Hacker/Designer Roommates

#50

Post by benatkin »

Maro wrote: post #30
zakkap wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still have a life and other friends that I talk to about stuff other than CS and software development to... I also have an intense passion for learning and can never see myself as "limiting" myself in one direction. And, yes... The idea is to start a start-up. Hence why I am posting this on YCombinator. And mentioned Kickstarter.com in my link.

IMO: 1. You should not live with your co-founder(s). It's important that you can take breaks from the startup/each other by going home . 2. You should be friends with your co-founder(s), but not "best friends". A startup is a bussiness relationship which is incompatible with "best friendship". This is my experience based on doing my own startup and watching others.

I don't have to look far for a counter-example: reddit. From the articles and interviews I've seen, I think rooming together was a very important part of reddit culture early on.
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