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Re: Make America Hate Again

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The only way to influence Trump's policy at this time is to be on his side. This may sound weird and very counter to prevailing thought but this may be the only way. Trump already knows he can't win the other side so he will continue to appease his base which will be more detrimental to all of us.

Re: Make America Hate Again

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I vouched it and it went back onto the front page, but it got promptly flagged away again. :-(

Yep. Sadly, it seems HN may be getting overrun by Trump apologists. Where's the next good place to be after HN gets gaslighted to not knowing the meaning of words?

I flagged it because 1) I'm tired of so many articles about politics here, 2) the author sounds like a whining brat, 3) if you don't like what's been elected you are going to have to deal with it.

Re: Make America Hate Again

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I agree with his stance on this, and I think Trump and his latest executive orders are awful, but I also think that at this point, "hatred," "bigotry," and "racism" should be excised from public discourse. These are labels. No one really knows what "hate" means anymore, but because people are emotional, they see the word, recall what they think of Trump, and think, "yeah, that's hateful!" This is a problem for two re…

"People become sick of this, and vote Trump just to fuck with everyone." This is extremely superficial, arrogant, even offensive to people who voted for Trump. And that is the reason why Trump won IMO. Opposition couldnt understand (not even recognize) the legitimate and valid thoughtful reasons people had to vote for Trump.

Anecdotally, the people I know personally who voted for Trump did so because they "didn't like Hillary" which I translate as "just to fuck with everyone". They knew who they were "supposed" to vote for, and rejected that. They didn't once repeat any of Trumps proposed policies or justify their choice based on public positions. They were given a choice between two flavors of politicians, and picked the one they liked (or the the one they didn't, not like)

Re: Make America Hate Again

#44

I know what "hate" means. I know what bigotry is, and I know what racism means. Don't you?

Quick question: Can babies be racist?

I ask because after seeing babies being defined as racist, I have no idea what racism means.

Re: Make America Hate Again

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I know what "hate" means. I know what bigotry is, and I know what racism means. Don't you?

>I know what "hate" means Do you though? If you can't distinguish the difference between fear of the unknown and hatred, then you are fortunate enough to never have experienced hatred. Since everyone likes to compare Trump and Hitler. Hitler hated the Jews, which resulted in genocide . I've talked to several people who support what he did with the ban and it has nothing to do with hating Muslims or immigrants and its…

I'm sure lots of people supported putting jews in camps that had nothing to do with anti-semitism.

Re: Make America Hate Again

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I agree with his stance on this, and I think Trump and his latest executive orders are awful, but I also think that at this point, "hatred," "bigotry," and "racism" should be excised from public discourse. These are labels. No one really knows what "hate" means anymore, but because people are emotional, they see the word, recall what they think of Trump, and think, "yeah, that's hateful!" This is a problem for two re…

This is a great way for one to stick their head in the sand and not have to fight the evil in the world. The Nazis weren't defeated by pussyfooting around, and the same applies this time around.

Re: Make America Hate Again

#50

I know what "hate" means. I know what bigotry is, and I know what racism means. Don't you?

No.

I'm told I'm racist because I think blacks and whites are interchangeable, and because I don't care about one over the other.

I'm told I'm racist for thinking the opposite.

I'm told it's racist to discriminate on the basis of race.

I'm also told it's racist NOT to do so.

The closest principle I can find that predicts who is considered a racist is "republican = racist". Can you provide a clear definition of racism that you'll endorse, even if I can derive conclusions you dislike?

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