I cannot continue working on my add-ons • Hacker News Board

Re: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

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Post by chei0iaV » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 3:17 PM UTC

mdekkers wrote: post #163

ngokevin wrote: post #151

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https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tab-center/

You are offering an alternative that will be made obsolete by the same change: https://github.com/bwinton/TabCenter/issues/868

> I don't know their final timeline, but I would be very surprised if the new APIs weren't available before we turned off old-style extensions, and I have already started working on a new branch that implements TabCenter as a WebExtension.

Did you even read your own link past the first sentence?

Re: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

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Post by nol13 » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 5:46 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #150

wtbob wrote: post #71

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> Almost nobody runs mobile Firefox, so that turned out not to matter much. FWIW, I love mobile Firefox and I really don't understand why folks use Chrome instead.

Exhibit A: You can't tell the GMail app to use anything but Chrome (at least on iOS). I'm sure there are more such examples. Even if a default was changeable the initial setting (as we saw in the Microsoft vs. Europe over IE) is very powerful.

and for whatever reason (i'll give benefit of doubt its a bug), every time i open a link it asks me which browser to use, no matter how many times i set the default to firefox.

Re: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

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Post by funnyfacts365 » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 5:52 PM UTC

CaptSpify wrote: post #165

gcb0 wrote: post #103

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most sites that are slow are also slow on chrome. so doesnt even bother. the only solution is installing noScript. the only version available is in beta. but it works fine. you will be suprised how few sites I have to whitelist to see the content I want. and usually besides faster, they get much more usable without Javascript!

I do use noscript. By default on every site. This slowness is different than your typical js-bloat slowness

I use Firefox for Android on a Moto E 2013. It's faster than Chrome. Ditto for my other phone, a Galaxy S3.

Re: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

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Post by BrendanEich » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 7:47 PM UTC

chr1 wrote: post #40

iancarroll wrote: post #10

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Maintaining a fork of a large browser is extremely difficult, especially for coordinating and merging vulnerability fixes.

Forking brave browser [1], or one of other electron based browsers may be a good way forward, as it will allow easy customizability of the ui, and get all the hard to maintain native parts from chromium. Mozillas browser.html project may be helpful too, but it seems to be a bit too experimental for now. [1] https://brave.com

No need to fork Brave, we will collaborate on extensions APIs as we scale. We're supporting tested chromium extensions that we curate and fetch from our own S3 (essentially a cache backed by the Chrome Web Store).

For an extension to get support, we need to rank it as in-demand, and then try adding it to Brave to see what missing chrome.* APIs it might need. https://twitter.com/bravesampson is leading this charge, using https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/projects/1 to keep track and engage with developers.

For future extension APIs that go beyond the chromium ones, we won't support XUL, but I'd like to take advantage of our Muon (https://github.com/brave/muon - we forked Electron, because security) React.js-based front end.

In 2Q2017 I'll hope to have more to say about extensions and where we'll go. Interested extension developers are welcome now to join our https://community.brave.com/ discourse. Thanks.

Re: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

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Post by DashRattlesnake » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 8:13 PM UTC

notatoad wrote: post #49

mnarayan01 wrote: post #17

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Previously the WebExtensions wiki mentioned that they were planning to support functionality for TreeStyle tabs. As of https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=WebExtensions&diff=... it no longer does; no idea how much to read into that though.

the webextensions/future[1] page tracks the new APIs needed to support existing "interesting addons" [1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebExtensions/Future

That page hasn't been updated since 2015. The linked uservoice site[1] for feedback has also been shut down (most of the activity was protest).

[1] https://webextensions.uservoice.com/

Re: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

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Post by AznHisoka » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 8:37 PM UTC

Buge wrote: post #156

AznHisoka wrote: post #26

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I also wish chrome would stop prepending http:// everytime i copy an ip from the url bar.

But by the standard of a url, it has to contain the http:// (or whatever protocol/scheme). Otherwise it's not a url. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Locator

I am not arguing against that fact.

But if I copy a specific part of the url I expect nothing to be added when I paste it

Re: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

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Post by hobarrera » Sun, Jan 29, 2017, 9:21 AM UTC

yoasif_ wrote: post #113

There seem to be a lot of people that are saying "oh, without XUL based extensions, Firefox is just a (worse) Chrome clone, so I might as well just use Chrome." I think what they might be missing is that Mozilla's conclusion is a lot like the people seem to be thinking here -- even though Chrome doesn't have the fancy extensions that are possible in Firefox, many many more people are using Chrome than Firefox, becaus…

Chrome gained a lot of market quickly because of perceived faster speed. Note that perceived is in great part because they took effort to make it seems faster that it was (it was faster that FF at some point though, there's no denying that).

Firefox is now working on well-designed speed upgrade, which will very clearly overtake Chrome. It just takes longer, due to design, and available manpower.

Re: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

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Post by hobarrera » Sun, Jan 29, 2017, 9:31 AM UTC

nol13 wrote: post #192

r00fus wrote: post #150

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Exhibit A: You can't tell the GMail app to use anything but Chrome (at least on iOS). I'm sure there are more such examples. Even if a default was changeable the initial setting (as we saw in the Microsoft vs. Europe over IE) is very powerful.

and for whatever reason (i'll give benefit of doubt its a bug), every time i open a link it asks me which browser to use, no matter how many times i set the default to firefox.

How do you set firefox as the default? I didn't think that was possible.

Re: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

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Post by ssdev » Sun, Jan 29, 2017, 12:58 PM UTC

It's time for me to try and deploy everywhere some small WebKit-based browser, like dwb or its clones. Not very sad, but waste of time.

Re: I cannot continue working on my add-ons

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Post by nol13 » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:35 AM UTC

hobarrera wrote: post #198

nol13 wrote: post #192

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and for whatever reason (i'll give benefit of doubt its a bug), every time i open a link it asks me which browser to use, no matter how many times i set the default to firefox.

How do you set firefox as the default? I didn't think that was possible.

i dunno, whenever i open a link it had radio button that says "use this to open links every time?" and i click yes then select firefox. but ya doesnt work so apparently you can't.