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Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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This is completely normal in politics and commerce. And regardless, he was elected in a fair vote. The end. If you run another election now he'll win again.

US intelligence officials have evidence of Russian disinformation and interference [1]. This is not normal. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:ODNI_Stateme...

You're mixing up your points. I never said that it was normal for foreign entities to influence elections, although it also is normal and you can quickly confirm this by looking at the funding received by random parties of your choice.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

Yes, it undermines the strike. Strikes are supposed to disrupt.

Cutting surge pricing means fewer drivers, increased wait times. Does not convenience anyone.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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The only moral code here is fact: contrary to the administration's claims, the September 11th attacks did not originate in – or have a material connection to – these countries. Citing the September 11th attacks as a reason to restrict immigration from these countries does not follow logically, and therefore must be opposed on a factual basis. The claim is not true.

What's that have to do with Lyft? It doesn't matter how principled your opposition here is...boards have obligations, and this isn't one of them.

It depends on the purpose of the company. Companies have purposes beyond simply increasing shareholder value: they have goals as to how they're going to run their business, which the board understands. I don't know what the details are in this case. But the argument that everything boils down to pure, unrestrained pursuit of profit is ultimately hollow and soulless and results in all manner of abuses.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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$1M just got them the best PR campaign they could have hoped for.

By pissing off half the country?

I'm wondering if that half is part of their demographic? It seems to me that it wouldn't be.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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That's not what Leninism means tho (it's not "smash the state" as Bannon says, it's about having a vanguard party and control of political power by the working class).

I completely understand that. But it's a term he used for himself, and I think it's funny to semi-accurately (not in terms of actual definition but in terms of someone's self-description) label a member of a Republican administration as a Leninist. Though Bannon may be more accurate than he realizes about being a "Leninist" since he wants his faction to be the vanguard party with power derived from the white working…

I think Bannon is an asshole and I wish he didn't have such a close position to the President. The only saving grace is that Trump is so arrogant, I don't think he will follow anything Bannon says that he already doesn't believe.

But since when is he a neo-nazi? Breitbart.com is about as pro-Israel as you can get, and Breitbart himself was a Jew. Trump's daughter Ivanka is also a Jew, as is her husband, who is now another special advisor.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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I hate asking about downvotes, but I'm really confused why this comment has been pushed to the bottom. Why?

Well, it's not a "Muslim Ban" for starters. Look up the countries with the highest Muslim populations, then cross ref to the list of countries that have a 90 day (to start) ban.

"President Donald Trump on Friday banned nationals of seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States..."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/text-of-trump-executi...

Trump’s campaign in 2015 said it wanted “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-...

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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What's that have to do with Lyft? It doesn't matter how principled your opposition here is...boards have obligations, and this isn't one of them.

It depends on the purpose of the company. Companies have purposes beyond simply increasing shareholder value: they have goals as to how they're going to run their business, which the board understands. I don't know what the details are in this case. But the argument that everything boils down to pure, unrestrained pursuit of profit is ultimately hollow and soulless and results in all manner of abuses.

Yeah absolutely. I'm guessing that "Oppose Trump" isn't in the memorandum of association though. I'm putting myself into the shoes of a large investor who isn't getting returns.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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They're helping their own workers. While a good thing, the rest of ther message is complete PR and sending ubers to JFK undermines the strikes, because it's such an easy way for them to make a profit.

Turning off surge pricing sends fewer Ubers to JFK! They make less money, not more with surge pricing off! Makes no sense!

Someone else in this thread pointed out that the headlines would be really bad for Uber if they said something like "Uber surges 500% while breaking airport taxi strike". It seems like they were trying to cover themselves, while not outright joining the strike, as if to triangulate towards the center.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Please don't use the phrase "conspiracy theorist" as a term of disparagement or to indicate a particular bias. There are many that investigate conspiracies who have the opposite views of Bannon and are very skeptical and scientific. You are giving a tool to the unscrupulous to bury conversations by labeling their opponents "conspiracy theorists." Would you say Edward Snowden is in the same bucket at Bannon?

When someone casts peaceful protests against immigration policy at airports as "terror tied", I classify that as conspiratorial thinking [1]. I have no doubt a conspiracy is at work here, but IMO it is not of the type that Bannon espouses. 1: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/28/terror-ti...

So when he reports that there were 100 protestors at the event, is that "numerical thinking"? Steve Bannon the Numericist.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Well, it's not a "Muslim Ban" for starters. Look up the countries with the highest Muslim populations, then cross ref to the list of countries that have a 90 day (to start) ban.

It's a Muslim ban when it affects majority-Muslim countries and has a minority exemption. That's pretty clear to me.

The top 6 countries [1] with the highest Muslim populations are not (temp) banned, yet somehow it's a "Muslim Ban".

[1] http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/muslims/pf_15-04-02_proje...

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