Oracle’s Cloud Licensing Change
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Oracle’s Cloud Licensing Change
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Re: Oracle’s Cloud Licensing Change
#2But hyper threading doesn't really double the performance of the CPU, I understood it's a marginal improvement. It seems odd to double the cost of the license if hyper threading is switched on.
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#3Is support the only reason people choose Oracle databases over something free like MySQL or Postgres?
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#4But hyper threading doesn't really double the performance of the CPU, I understood it's a marginal improvement. It seems odd to double the cost of the license if hyper threading is switched on.
It's a thin fig leave for "we don't care, but do it anyway". Their grandiose cloud plans tanked hard, they screwed up all products they bought, now with their backs against the wall the only thing left is milking existing customers at any cost. It's obviously a last resort short-term strategy.
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#5Is support the only reason people choose Oracle databases over something free like MySQL or Postgres?
The thing you need to understand about Oracle is that it's never — well, never in my experience, and I've worked as a DBA (mostly postgres, but I have had my hands on some Oracle) for a decade now — chosen by the technologists. It's chosen by management. Usually non-technical management. Often dangerously so.
But Oracle support basically doesn't answer the phone unless you're regularly cutting them six-figure checks, so you kinda need that level of management to be making the decision whether or not to use the platform.
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#6This is a plain attack on Amazon, which Oracle now sees as a competitor, that will hit customers in the crossfire. I guess Oracle expects customers will simply move to Azure, since retooling ops might be easier than rebuilding solutions on other databases.
It will yet again hurt their image though; they've been hated by geeks for ages, but they are increasingly unpopular even among executives. How long can you do business with people who openly despise you?
Re: Oracle’s Cloud Licensing Change
#7Is support the only reason people choose Oracle databases over something free like MySQL or Postgres?
I bet you can get plenty of support for MySQL or Postgres
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#8Is support the only reason people choose Oracle databases over something free like MySQL or Postgres?
Vendor locked. Many companies have huge applications bound tightly to the Oracle database. Often the business logic is just stored procedures. That makes it incredibly difficult to migrate and developers will have a hard time convincing management that the cost of migration would be worth it.
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#9Is support the only reason people choose Oracle databases over something free like MySQL or Postgres?
MySQL and Postgres have multi-master replication. They do NOT have distributed transactions (with the distributed locking system etc). For some customers it is important. Others have delusions that they need it.
Oracle has other products as well. I am generally aware of couple used widely.
Their ESB is one of the heavy players, and some sausage stands always need the most advanced ones. The funny thing is that with Oracle's ESB you end up developing the missing glue features using Java, and the ESB product's framework. The environment is extremely non-productive.
Oracle's JavaEE application server is kind of nice, if you wanted WebSphere with training wheels. While feature wise it does have similar set, the maintainability and management features are just plain inferior, and most options are bolted down, and not available unless you go to lower levels...
Oh, they offer ERP suite(s) as well. Those are for people that are prone to joining religious cults. They are not technology, and software products really. They are something sold to general and logistic managers with a story that you can actually force your company to use their "best practices" sets for everything, and abandon all software architecture in favor of warm and nice spaghetti. :)
Re: Oracle’s Cloud Licensing Change
#10But hyper threading doesn't really double the performance of the CPU, I understood it's a marginal improvement. It seems odd to double the cost of the license if hyper threading is switched on.
HT performance grew from generation to generation. In many cases a HT "core" has 80% of the performance of a "normal" core. A current 2-core+HT i3 CPU is almost on par with a 4-core i5 (the i3 has faster cores but less L3 cache).