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DHS will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders

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Re: DHS will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders

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Post by skuhn »

gizmo385 wrote: post #7

"Yesterday, less than one percent of the more than 325,000 international air travelers who arrive every day were inconvenienced while enhanced security measures were implemented." I guess getting detained and denied entry into the country is "enhanced security measures"?

Interesting that they finally gave a scope to the people impacted. 3200 people doesn't seem like chump change to me.

And I guess deporting people is the most enhanced security measure of them all. If we could deport everyone that lives in the US, I bet security would be pretty tight.

Re: DHS will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders

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Post by daeken »

We now have a government agency publicly disregarding an injunction by the Federal courts. This is bad. This goes far beyond this specific issue (which, while nasty, affects relatively few people). This sets a fucking awful precedent.

This cannot be allowed to happen. I would love to see everyone violating this injunction (and ordering others to do so) be put in jail, just as if I or anyone else were to violate such a court order.

Re: DHS will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders

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Post by throwaway942024 »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #10

No foreign national in a foreign land, without ties to the United States Permanent residents who have lived in the US for years and are travelling have no ties to the country? That's a stupid statement.

...isn't permanent residence a tie to the United States?

Re: DHS will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders

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Post by Waterluvian »

daeken wrote: post #12

We now have a government agency publicly disregarding an injunction by the Federal courts. This is bad. This goes far beyond this specific issue (which, while nasty, affects relatively few people). This sets a fucking awful precedent. This cannot be allowed to happen. I would love to see everyone violating this injunction (and ordering others to do so) be put in jail, just as if I or anyone else were to violate such…

Are they though? The last paragraph says they will comply. I think this says little new other than there being a lot of confusion everywhere.

Re: DHS will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders

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Post by daeken »

throwaway942024 wrote: post #14
matthewmacleod wrote: post #10

No foreign national in a foreign land, without ties to the United States Permanent residents who have lived in the US for years and are travelling have no ties to the country? That's a stupid statement.

...isn't permanent residence a tie to the United States?

Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that this executive order puts them solidly in the crosshairs. That's what makes the statement so ridiculous.

Re: DHS will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders

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Post by tn13 »

It is obvious that DHS and all others must obey the law.

It is important to note that the people affected here are not just the hijab wearing sharia loving Muslims (as trump might describe them) but also people who helped US army carry out the unnecessary operations in their homeland and as a result face danger in their own country. Some top notch researchers or even activists who are fighting the oppressive regimes in their home countries.

As an immigrant I think I better max out my credit cards borrow all possible loans before leaving USA !

Re: DHS will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders

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Post by aerovistae »

daeken wrote: post #12

We now have a government agency publicly disregarding an injunction by the Federal courts. This is bad. This goes far beyond this specific issue (which, while nasty, affects relatively few people). This sets a fucking awful precedent. This cannot be allowed to happen. I would love to see everyone violating this injunction (and ordering others to do so) be put in jail, just as if I or anyone else were to violate such…

> The Department of Homeland Security will comply with judicial orders;

Think you might've read over that

Re: DHS will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

> Yesterday, less than one percent of the more than 325,000 international air travelers who arrive every day were inconvenienced while enhanced security measures were implemented.

Oh, well as long as it's only minorities who have to suffer, then I guess all is well.

Re: DHS will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders

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Post by clhodapp »

> President Trump’s Executive Order affects a minor portion of international travelers, and is a first step towards reestablishing control over America's borders and national security.

Whelp (editing out the explicative here), this makes it the official position of the DHS that the already-over-the-top measures they have been taking in recent years are not sufficient to establish "control over America's borders and national security".

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