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Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but Obama was on our side , so certain things can be overlooked for the greater good.
False equivalence. Obama did not ban a country or religion wholesale. This is a substantial and disturbing step in the reckless anti-fact, anti-science, anti-truth administration of Donald John Trump.
False equivalence.
I never stated their were equivalent, but the silence pre-Trump about immigration issues was deafening.
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
Less than half
I refuse to believe that most of the people voted for Trump because of his immigration policy, especially since all of the policy details he provided were vague at best. It was about jobs and hating the Clintons and the Dems more than anything, but immigration wasn't the core issue of the election.
Cracking down on illegal immigration was definitely a major plank in his platform. I think the wall is stupid and a waste of money but, at the end of the day, it is in service of existing immigration laws, so it's not abhorrent to the same degree as the Muslim ban, which uses executive power to capriciously deny entry to people who were previously legal immigrants, visitors, and tourists.
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#164This is the time to make as much noise as you can - protest, call your congress person, etc.
This is the time to follow the "no quarter given" tactics of the NRA - they get their members to show up at any legislation anywhere that even smells of Gun control and raise a massive ruckus - similarly the time to protest is NOW before Trump rolls out the really evil stuff.
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#165How this is happening, the exact trajectory of how much worse these things are (and its potential to worsen) is somewhat terrifying, especially when you consider the cavalier disregard and easy ignorance that this policy represents. I know classmates and colleagues and friends who are discussing, in their groups and communities, how to best help people stranded, whether or not vacations and returns to see ill family…
It may also be illegal: https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/trumps-immigrat... The Hart-Celler Act abolished the national origins quota system that had structured American immigration policy since the 1920s, replacing it with a preference system that focused on immigrants' skills and family relationships with citizens or residents of the U.S. http://library.uwb.edu/Static/USimmigration/1965_immigration... Ex…
So what are the Democrats doing about this. The silence from that group is deafening.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Terrifying, how? This is what Trump promised, and the reason we voted for him. Half of us are quite happy to see campaign promises actually implemented. HN is acting as if this was capricious and unplanned. In fact, it's what half of us wanted.
Yep, US has been bombing and droning many of these countries and people coming in should be taken without any knowledge who they are or what are their intentions? Trump just signed action for 5 year lobbying plan. Looks like he deliver once more. It's shameful HN doesn't flag posts calling Trump and his supporters nazis, homophobic and other names. While any dissident about liberals is flagged/downvoted to oblivion.
> It's shameful HN doesn't flag posts calling Trump and his supporters nazis, homophobic and other names
No, what it is shameful is applauding this executive order.
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#167How this is happening, the exact trajectory of how much worse these things are (and its potential to worsen) is somewhat terrifying, especially when you consider the cavalier disregard and easy ignorance that this policy represents. I know classmates and colleagues and friends who are discussing, in their groups and communities, how to best help people stranded, whether or not vacations and returns to see ill family…
Terrifying, how? This is what Trump promised, and the reason we voted for him. Half of us are quite happy to see campaign promises actually implemented. HN is acting as if this was capricious and unplanned. In fact, it's what half of us wanted.
> In fact, it's what half of us wanted
First, it's 46% of the people who voted (i.e. less than half). Second, it's quite disingenuous to suggest that all of those people would support this hamfisted immigration restriction, as-is; in case you were oblivious to your surroundings for the last year, vast numbers of voters -- if not the majority -- were merely voting for the person they despised less. It's more than a tad delusional that there's a mandate here to go and fuck over people's lives because of the happenstance of where they happen to come from.
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#168A lot of international students in UK think the same about Brexit, once pound hits 1:1 with Euro there will be less reasons to stay in the UK for them. What means less people will pay their student loans from government, and UK will lose access to European bailiffs...
given that EU students will no longer be offered UK student loans or tuition subsidised by UK taxpayers after brexit, this becomes less of an issue as each year passes...
it's not exactly easy to collect from former students defaulting on their loan repayment agreements at the moment either (if they're not in the UK)
(your argument about GBPEUR also makes no sense, if the euro increased in value that would make the UK cheaper for people holding euros...)
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#169Good, we can never be sure whether this student's plan was to be educated here and then return to her home country where hostile parties would employ her to our disadvantage.
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#170Proud to be Canadian, see our PM's latest tweets https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/825438460265762816
Proud to be a permanent resident of Canada now. I left US (H1B visa) some months back.