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Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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You think Donald will sell his stake in projects in Turkey?

What happens when some terrorist group makes the extremely tactically-obvious decision to attack the Trump Towers there? It's not like there's any shortage of US-hostile terrorists with the ability to reach Istanbul. (Honestly, what happens when any Trump property around the world gets attacked? They've got giant signs advertising that the president of the US cares about them, and they don't have anywhere near the pr…

Yeah, I wonder. Is the President allowed to send troops to protect his personal property or investments?

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. The rest of us feel like prisoners in our own country when faced with this kind of complete and utter insanity.

How is it a minority when 48% of voters elected him a few months ago?

Where are you getting that figure?

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Though I see this is a whitehouse.gov site, I'm curious as to what counts as a legitimate signature. I'm not American, not a resident, and not in America, so what happens if I sign this petition? Does anybody know how they figure this out? Do a bunch of signatures from people who have no rights in the US invalidate the petition?

The petition doesn't mean anything to begin with. The previous administration used them as a PR device. They aren't binding. Who knows if it is even intentional that it still works.

> PR device

No. Citizens used it to petition the White House and it worked as designed until recently.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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What is the process to obtain these waivers? How long does it take? Does anyone know the answers to these questions? There's nothing clearly posted on DHS.gov.

I was able to find this, from an unnamed "senior administration official" [0]:

> Green card holders in the U.S. will have to meet with a consular officer before departing the country, the official said.

That's a fairly large inconvenience, especially for those not living in a city with a consular office. And it doesn't address the situation of green card holders who are currently abroad and need waivers. Presumedly they could visit a US embassy or consular office in their country, but that's going to be difficult for someone in, say, Iran.

0: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/316670-trump-ref...

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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The unfortunate fact is no-one who matters cares about this.

Who matters? Not the US public: von Clownstick & co know it will be forgetten in a month or three, and by the next election (if there is another election) enough red meat can be thrown to the know-nothing base to "win" again.

Who matters: other wealthy nation governments. That's it. And none of them, however loudly they profess civilised values, will risk a hair on their precious bankers' heads to protect distant low-status nonwhite humans. That's a plain fact.

We all know what ought to happen: civilised nations should band together and just say no to America. An escalating series of sanctions, starting with trade, going via targeted military cooperation downgrades, and ending with cancelling all visas to US citizens. Some nations have strong leverage over America, eg. Australia threatening access to Pine Gap would make the US tremble.

None of this can or will happen, and we will plunge into the abyss. WWI and II were prequels. RIP homo sapiens. You will be little missed by our once-glorious planet's other sentient beings.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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This. I am from Turkey, and i will be nervous every passing day from yesterday on, watching news to see if Turkey is added to the list. I am still years away from naturalization, and it saddens me to think about relocating, after having left where i was born for a better and productive life. Nobody chooses their birthplace, but these are the people that decided to make a change, and in a way that historically benefit…

What makes Donald Trump's action so sickenly selfish is that a better life is why his grandfather Friedrich Drumpf immigrated from Bavaria. Though one could argue 3 generations later that act of immigration is not benefitting the US.

I don't see many Bavarian terrorists shooting up nightclubs or beheading innocent people.

We are at war, not everyone can be trusted, sorry.

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