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Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Post by freddyc »

tpaksoy wrote: post #31
hesdeadjim wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. The rest of us feel like prisoners in our own country when faced with this kind of complete and utter insanity.

How is it a minority when 48% of voters elected him a few months ago?

That is quite literally the definition of a minority :)

Seriously though, I take your point and this is a reminder that if we ignore vocal minorities spouting hate, eventually they may grow big enough to take control. If you see this type of behavior in your own backyard then please vote even if you don't think it will matter.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Post by appleiigs »

_delirium wrote: post #39
appleiigs wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a minority, 46.1% voted for Trump according to CNN

I believe 46% is less than 50%, and therefore a minority. Not a tiny minority, but nonetheless a minority.

If you want to be pedantic, a minority voted for Hillary too.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Post by selectodude »

tpaksoy wrote: post #31
hesdeadjim wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. The rest of us feel like prisoners in our own country when faced with this kind of complete and utter insanity.

How is it a minority when 48% of voters elected him a few months ago?

63 million people voted for Donald Trump. That's 20 percent of Americans.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Post by hackuser »

hesdeadjim wrote: post #10
kome wrote: post #6

America, what you have done? Good luck with this petition! Let's fight for an open world.

It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. The rest of us feel like prisoners in our own country when faced with this kind of complete and utter insanity.

> It's not America that did this it's a minority of America.

That's democracy; that is America or else there is no America. All Americans must own this problem, not say that it's not their fault.

For one thing, it didn't come from nowhere; Trump's policies merely put in action what many in his party have advocated for years. Yet many smart people I know overlooked it and continued to vote Republican.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Post by ImTalking »

It's so easy to see the outcome of these policies. Intolerance begats intolerance begats violence. There can be no other outcome other than an increase in violence, both domestic and international. And what will Trump do when the violence increases? He will whip the masses up with frenzied speeches and double-down on the executive orders to limit immigration. But the violence will not abate but will worsen. So finally, he will institute orders to deal with the violence, not the immigration orders that are the cause, but the violence. Protests will be banned, people will be put in prison, violence will be quashed by even more violent means, and they'll need to clothe these violence-quashers and will decide that brown shirts are the appropriate colour.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Post by powertower »

jasonjei wrote: post #4

What's scary is the new immigration ban affects legal, permanent residents. US legal, permanent residents that have firmly rooted their lives in the US, only to be told they can't come home.

Overall, I don't see this as such a bad thing... But every major decision is going to have its outliers.

This is a temp 90-day ban on non-reciprocating countries (and countries of concern), which the FBI said they are not able to properly vet (because those countries will not provide background info on the applicant, and some other reasons). It only affects non-citizens such as visitors, students, or employment visas holders - from leaving the country and coming back, and there seems to be a waiver process to help them.

They already have something like a 7 month backlog of applicants to process. 90 days is going to give them a chance to catch up and look for ways to improve the situation... Such as getting the "Implementing Uniform Screening Standards for All Immigration Programs" part of the order up and running.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Post by geofft »

selectodude wrote: post #37
DavidSJ wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's safe now . Who knows about next week?

You think Donald will sell his stake in projects in Turkey?

What happens when some terrorist group makes the extremely tactically-obvious decision to attack the Trump Towers there? It's not like there's any shortage of US-hostile terrorists with the ability to reach Istanbul.

(Honestly, what happens when any Trump property around the world gets attacked? They've got giant signs advertising that the president of the US cares about them, and they don't have anywhere near the protection that US soil does.)

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Post by ohnotthatguy »

tpaksoy wrote: post #31
hesdeadjim wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. The rest of us feel like prisoners in our own country when faced with this kind of complete and utter insanity.

How is it a minority when 48% of voters elected him a few months ago?

"Voters" is the important distinction. 26.3% of "Eligible Voters" elected him.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/11/politics/popular-vote-turn...

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