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France bans unlimited sugary drink refills

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Re: France bans unlimited sugary drink refills

#11
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Free refills? How dare you! That stomach doesn't belong to the consumer, it's merely being rented from the state!

Classic "nanny state" defense. The food industry invented that, by the way.

> The food industry invented the classic nanny state defense

Citation needed.

That's like saying Patrick Henry invented liberty.

Re: France bans unlimited sugary drink refills

#12

Free refills? How dare you! That stomach doesn't belong to the consumer, it's merely being rented from the state!

You are making an argument based on taking this to an extreme. But take it to the other extreme: is it governmental overreach that heroin is banned or is it a good public health policy?

The merits of this new French law can be argued, but it is not an obvious overreach.

Re: France bans unlimited sugary drink refills

#13

I remember my vacation in the states (in the South). I got served a absolutely massive glass of coca-cola with my dinner. When I had finally managed to finish it a waiter came and refilled the bloody thing when I wasn't paying attention. How can you enjoy your meal with that much to drink?

Growing up in the states (North Texas), it's treated almost identically to water. There's a baffling lack of recognition that soda is as impactful as it is on health.

Re: France bans unlimited sugary drink refills

#14
Is it just me who's thinking that individuals in modern societies are not capable anymore of making meaningful decisions, including how much to drink? We're sacrificing freedom here because we became incapable. That scares me.

Re: France bans unlimited sugary drink refills

#15

Free refills? How dare you! That stomach doesn't belong to the consumer, it's merely being rented from the state!

You are making an argument based on taking this to an extreme. But take it to the other extreme: is it governmental overreach that heroin is banned or is it a good public health policy? The merits of this new French law can be argued, but it is not an obvious overreach.

> But take it to the other extreme: is it governmental overreach that heroin is banned or is it a good public health policy?

Given that the most effective treatment for heroin addiction is diacetylmorphine maintenance (aka, prescription-strength heroin)[0], I'd say it's definitely governmental overreach.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin-assisted_treatment

Re: France bans unlimited sugary drink refills

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post #9

I remember my vacation in the states (in the South). I got served a absolutely massive glass of coca-cola with my dinner. When I had finally managed to finish it a waiter came and refilled the bloody thing when I wasn't paying attention. How can you enjoy your meal with that much to drink?

You don't have to finish your drink.

Many Americans accept gluttony and waste, both trouble many parts of the world.

Obesity you are way ahead. But you do have a lot in common with the Mexicans for whatever reason:

https://healthhabits.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/how-fat-is-...

But food waste actaully the USA isn't that far ahead of others, so I partly take that back:

http://www.dow.com/performanceplastics/make-it-last/global-v...

Re: France bans unlimited sugary drink refills

#20
There are no bad foods, only bad diets. Why pick on sugary drinks, but leave ice cream shops alone. Why not put a hazard tax on buffet restaurants. Imagine the government decides they don't like the way you live your life, so they make laws to screw you and people like you. Laws are the worst way to attempt to improve human dietary behavior.

You could advertise fitness, create tastier low calorie beverages, even advertise drinking a full glass of water before eating. Positive fitness outcomes can be found using non punitive means.

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