Google hides, suppress, spy, track & blocks users and STILL people are suprised of them ?
Cmon people please wakeup and open your eyes.
Google, in Post-Obama Era, Aggressively Woos Republicans
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is like blaming commercial landlords for letting payday loan companies / rent space to these people or letting telecoms let criminals communicate on their networks. When your infrastructure, the good and the bad will use it and you don't want to be in the job of determining who is good or bad.
Doing it for profit is hardly a better excuse than following orders. Should we not hold it against Trump that he ran casinos which preyed on the intellectually and financially disadvantaged?
If we hold Trump responsible for that, then don't we hold cigarette companies responsible for lung cancer? Weapons companies for murders? BitTorrent for piracy? Soda and fast food companies for obesity and diabetes? Where does it end?
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The typical hire former government workers to lobby current government might also be in danger if the President goes through with his anti-lobbyist rule changes. This is one thing that I'm really looking forward to.
Trump's proposal is a five-year ban on becoming a registered lobbyist after leaving a government job. This sounds good on paper -- but the more likely reality is that it will simply lead to lobbying becoming more covert, as former government employees working on behalf of corporations won't register as lobbyists. It's also hard to believe that the Trump administration would do much to rein in backroom deals, consider…
"but the more likely reality is that it will simply lead to lobbying becoming more covert, as former government employees working on behalf of corporations won't register as lobbyists."
Even if it's not 100% effective, won't this significantly reduce this behavior? Certainly adds risk to the equation.
Many of his policies are questionable, but this one always sounded pretty good to me.
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http://neveragain.tech/ has a ton of Googlers on there. I'm among them.
Your replacement won't care. You even gave Alphabet mgmt a nice list of who to downsize.
You assume that they'll be able to find an equally qualified replacement quickly enough. Having observed how hard it is to hire good people, I doubt that.
(Full disclosure: my name is also on the list linked above.)
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Your replacement won't care. You even gave Alphabet mgmt a nice list of who to downsize.
I can't speak to anyone else's experiences here, but your cynicism seems unwarranted based on mine.
We'll its not like google had any problems creating a registry for Hillary who was the actual threat to democracy as the Podesta emails verified.
https://qz.com/520652/groundwork-eric-schmidt-startup-workin...
Re: Google, in Post-Obama Era, Aggressively Woos Republicans
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is like blaming commercial landlords for letting payday loan companies / rent space to these people or letting telecoms let criminals communicate on their networks. When your infrastructure, the good and the bad will use it and you don't want to be in the job of determining who is good or bad.
Doing it for profit is hardly a better excuse than following orders. Should we not hold it against Trump that he ran casinos which preyed on the intellectually and financially disadvantaged?
> Doing it for profit is hardly a better excuse than following orders.
Profit motive has nothing to do with it. You could just as easily be blaming a shelter for "harboring" an adulterer. It isn't their job to be the morality police.
And you don't want them to be, because they have no accountability and little incentive to get it right. Better that corporations provide service to everyone than that they be the ones deciding who gets denied service.
> Should we not hold it against Trump that he ran casinos which preyed on the intellectually and financially disadvantaged?
Trump didn't force them to bet their money in the casino. They chose to do that, and we chose not to pass a law against it.
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#77I'm not optimistic, but I hope that the Trump era finally puts an end to the illusions people had about tech giants as a vehicle for social progress. We're stepping into an era of extreme inequality, authoritarianism, and intolerance, all borne on the back of their rise. They may not be the origin of these trends, but they certainly rode them to tremendous wealth without anything besides the most superficial concerns…
You're blaming tech giants for the rise in inequality, authoritarianism and intolerance? It's like blaming Apple or Spotify that your favorite artists aren't as good as they used to be. Fine, be happy the veil is off (tech giants are corporations and when push comes to shove are about money), but honestly you need to look at the petroleum industry, security & prison industrial complexes and their bought politicians t…
They should be treated just like other companies whose stated purpose is to make as much money as they can.
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> I'm not optimistic, but I hope that the Trump era finally puts an end to the illusions people had about tech giants as a vehicle for social progress. I hope so too. Even if corporations really were sincerely pursuing social progress, that would be bad. In a democratic society, social progress should not be determined by a small group of unaccountable organizations. Say what you will about governments pursuing socia…
The shareholders control the board, who is actually in charge of the business. Officers are appointed managers acting on behalf of the board.
Theoretically, yes. In practice, not so much.
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> look at the petroleum industry, security & prison industrial complexes and their bought politicians to see the worst. Why would the tech industry be any better? The industries you name are somewhat more dependent on government, but Google and 'big tech' are still heavily dependent.
Deepwater Horizon, Bhopal, CIA black sites, the list is long. The level of either incompetence or pure indifference to human and environmental cost is just incomparable. Name one such for the tech industry.
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#80So much for 'don't be evil,' although that was always more of an ideal than an actual policy guide.