For 20USD/mo you can setup a VPS and create your own vpn service using openswan. Is 20USD/mo too much?
China is choking the Internet
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Re: China is choking the Internet
#12You could say that this is actually beneficial for chinese startups, because without access to foreign alternatives chinese users are forced to use their services.
I don't think it's a coincidence if most segments of the chinese internet are dominated by a company from China, not the USA.
The other goal that the Chinese government is achieving, is that by pushing chinese users towards chinese companies, they make sure that they keep them under their thumb. It's much easier for them to take down a video from Youku than from Youtube.
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#13Rent a VPS or dedicated server outside china and use an SSH proxy.
Linux: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/18/tunnel-web-and-dns-tr... Windows: http://www.dotcomunderground.com/blogs/2008/12/11/putty-ssh-...
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#14Well, since you've been in China less than a year and you're finding out that it hampers your ability to run a business, why not state loud & clear to the government they'll be losing your business and move out? It's not like you don't have options, as opposed to the majority of the Chinese population, for who moving out is not an option.
Perhaps I'm overly paranoid, but I think moving out first , then getting all uppity with gov't is probably a saner route.
He's posted below that his business is not registered, so there is nothing to get uppity about.
Also, after moving out there is not much to gain from the situation any more so any time you invest in to getting 'uppity' is wasted.
On another note, I wonder how much of the paranoia is really warranted and how much of it is based on media hype, I have two friends working in China and they're managing to get along with government officials well enough, so far, even when they're critical.
Does anybody from China have any experience with 'getting uppity' with Chinese officials as a foreigner doing business in China? As in "Hi, I need this to do my work, can you provide it or will I have to leave?" (which doesn't sound all that uppity to me anyway).
edit: by the way, funny the moderation in this thread is making me wonder how many people on HN have an irrational fear about all things Chinese. They can't all be moderating out of personal experience.
Re: China is choking the Internet
#15Move to Hong Kong?
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#16Protest!
But be prepared to die under the treads of a tank.
The Tiananmen Square protests were in 1989, well before the rise of widespread internet usage, I wonder if given the speed with which information moves around these days if the government of China would risk a second confrontation in the public eye like that.
While the OP states clearly that the government is doing a lot to crack down on communication with foreign entities I can't help but think that communication inside China is still on average a lot faster today than it was in 1989.
Are mesh networks illegal in China?
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#17Protest!
But be prepared to die under the treads of a tank.
Nah, they'll stop the tank and show their mercy to the international public, while an onslaught of protesting students is going on outside the view of the camera. Then you'll get taken away by a man on a bicycle and never heard from again.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps I'm overly paranoid, but I think moving out first , then getting all uppity with gov't is probably a saner route.
He's posted below that his business is not registered, so there is nothing to get uppity about. Also, after moving out there is not much to gain from the situation any more so any time you invest in to getting 'uppity' is wasted. On another note, I wonder how much of the paranoia is really warranted and how much of it is based on media hype, I have two friends working in China and they're managing to get along with g…
You don't get "uppity" with Chinese officials. You either have a good connection to the government or you can do squat. Government ties is everything if you really want to get your business going.
The real problem is the international companies providing all this nifty IT tech to actually realize this 1984 path what is going on in China.
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#19How long will China tolerate VPNs? While they are an essential tool for international business, they also completely defeat the firewall.
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#20Move to Hong Kong?
The inet connection into mainland from that route is very slow.