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Anne Frank and her family were also denied entry as refugees to the U.S

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Re: Anne Frank and her family were also denied entry as refugees to the U.S

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

temarsden wrote: post #8

What does this have to do with hacker news?

For me, the hope that somewhere underneath our interest in growth hacks, new programming languages, and this week's hottest JS framework exists basic human decency.

edit: Allow me to rephrase a bit. Our actions as technologists have real effects upon real people. It is incumbent upon us to consider how the tools we make may harm or help our fellow human beings.

In Canada, newly graduated engineers are given iron rings to remind them of the ethical obligations incumbent in their jobs. We should all be so fortunate as to have a physical token reminding us of this on a daily basis.

Re: Anne Frank and her family were also denied entry as refugees to the U.S

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Post by sgift »

hoooyaaa wrote: post #15
sgift wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I thought all the innocent Americans (or as I'm not from America "people") killed by criminals sucks. As far as I'm informed being a criminal, an asshole or a despicable human being is completely separated from religion, immigration, color, gender, (feel free to extend this list) - people can be multiple things. Or none.

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You may find this Wikipedia page enlightening:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_cau...

Re: Anne Frank and her family were also denied entry as refugees to the U.S

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Post by echelon »

hoooyaaa wrote: post #15
sgift wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I thought all the innocent Americans (or as I'm not from America "people") killed by criminals sucks. As far as I'm informed being a criminal, an asshole or a despicable human being is completely separated from religion, immigration, color, gender, (feel free to extend this list) - people can be multiple things. Or none.

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You clearly don't respect the ethos of your fellow human beings with this vile rhetoric. Don't sully HN with these comments.

Re: Anne Frank and her family were also denied entry as refugees to the U.S

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Post by matt4077 »

siculars wrote: post #7
dwightgunning wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also read the same regarding minority religions. Although the price I saw was only citing a draft of the executive order. I wonder when, they haven't already, publish the final version. The countries to which the bans apply are all majority Muslim, so the exemption would apply to non-Muslims.

Had similar exemptions been applied in war-time Europe the Franks may well have been saved.

This specific exception would obviously not have made any sense back then, considering the vast majority of refugees belonged to the minority religion.

I actually just tried to find out what the attitude towards jewish refugees was in the US and happened upon this eerily pertinent passage:

    Out of fear that the Nazis could smuggle spies and
    saboteurs in with refugees, immigration officials
    tightened visa policies for immigrants and non-
    immigrants. The State Department urged its diplomatic
    consuls in Europe to screen potential immigrants
    carefully, including those fleeing persecution,
(from https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007094)

Re: Anne Frank and her family were also denied entry as refugees to the U.S

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Post by jypepin »

matt4077 wrote: post #17
temarsden wrote: post #8

What does this have to do with hacker news?

Hackers are people, my friend.

Although I enjoyed this article and don't mind seeing it on hacker news, I can understand the question tho, and actually have found myself wonder about it.

of course we are human, but it's called "hacker news" and I guess people expect computer related news here. Just like when I visit soccer.com, I'm not expecting news about AI or Anne Frank :)

So it's not about being people too, it's about the subject focused (or at least implied) by this website.

I can also see the fact that HN is now more a community that an actual news site and people like to talk about more and more various subjects.

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