Good discovery by Jesse and great detective work by yourself Jimminy.
This would have been much more interesting had it shown flash on ipads/iPhones.
Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users
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Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users
#32This is getting silly. If people are pissed about flash on the iPad + iPhone, then they won't buy these devices. But trying to employ the "taking away your freedom" argument is incorrect and seems like a last ditch flailing effort by Adobe. It reminds me of the used car salesman in True Lies when he's posing as a spy and trying to get Jamie Lee Curtis to sleep with him. "If you won't do it for me, then how about doin…
The same argument could have been made about people buying Windows in the 90's. If everyone was so pissed about what MS did to Netscape they could have simply chosen another OS, but they didn't. Consumers don't realize the issues at hand, they just want a cool device, just like they wanted an OS that worked and couldn't care less about who got screwed along the way.
Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users
#33This is getting silly. If people are pissed about flash on the iPad + iPhone, then they won't buy these devices. But trying to employ the "taking away your freedom" argument is incorrect and seems like a last ditch flailing effort by Adobe. It reminds me of the used car salesman in True Lies when he's posing as a spy and trying to get Jamie Lee Curtis to sleep with him. "If you won't do it for me, then how about doin…
The same argument could have been made about people buying Windows in the 90's. If everyone was so pissed about what MS did to Netscape they could have simply chosen another OS, but they didn't. Consumers don't realize the issues at hand, they just want a cool device, just like they wanted an OS that worked and couldn't care less about who got screwed along the way.
If consumers don't realise the issues then they are non-issues. That is the way of the 21st century.
Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users
#34This doesn't abuse AdSense to force anything, it's simply using doubleclick as a stats tracker to see who clicks. If you worship a brand please don't allow it to cause you to spread misinformation about its competitors on the internet.
I'm new to HN, is there no down-vote or report as inaccurate mechanism?
Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users
#35This doesn't abuse AdSense to force anything, it's simply using doubleclick as a stats tracker to see who clicks. If you worship a brand please don't allow it to cause you to spread misinformation about its competitors on the internet. I'm new to HN, is there no down-vote or report as inaccurate mechanism?
There is flagging for articles, and downvoting for comments depending on your karma or karma/post. I don't know what the particular values are.
Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users
#36Everyday I feel less sympathy for Adobe.
Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users
#37This doesn't abuse AdSense to force anything, it's simply using doubleclick as a stats tracker to see who clicks. If you worship a brand please don't allow it to cause you to spread misinformation about its competitors on the internet. I'm new to HN, is there no down-vote or report as inaccurate mechanism?
Then how was the ad shown on Google Reader, if not through AdSense?
Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users
#38This doesn't abuse AdSense to force anything, it's simply using doubleclick as a stats tracker to see who clicks. If you worship a brand please don't allow it to cause you to spread misinformation about its competitors on the internet. I'm new to HN, is there no down-vote or report as inaccurate mechanism?
Ok, use as a "stats tracker" doesn't explain the UA manipulation.
Also I don't know what brand you think I'm worshiping. I am not an Apple Fanboy, I refuse to even use an iPod, not a Google Fanboy, I criticize them fairly often, and as for Adobe, I use their desktop tools, but on the web I don't think of them much. I despise brands, because they promote homogeneity. I prefer products that work the best, and go with what works.
Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users
#39We shouldn't jump to conclusions. Has anyone else actually confirmed this? His pop-up might have been from elsewhere..
Yes, it's been confirmed, someone else saw the same source, an ad in Google Reader on a Techcrunch article, that I hadn't shared when I was first working on the story. Here is the discussion we were having about it when I went to look into the issue. http://ff.im/kjhfH
Just checking.. +1 for you
Because it seems a lot of crap coming here these days, nobody double checks actually.