Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

nytimes.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

31–40 of 111 posts

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

#31

Post by basicplus2 »

problems wrote: post #28
suprgeek wrote: post #13

This is just the beginning. Our great leader has repeatedly egged on his supporters to attack the media. He constantly criticizes any media agency that dares report facts that are personally embarrassing to him. Or ones that make him look bad or anything that shows that he is not as popular as he claims, or... Imagine that you are a police officer and find some media people among a crowd (who may or may not have set…

He'll be lucky to get the 20% tariff on Mexican imports he currently wants. I'll be surprised if he manages to do anything seriously speech crippling.

Yes and his clothing he sells in America but made in Mexico will be more expensive.. so maybe he will give himself an exemption

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

#32

Post by curiousgeorgio »

hudibras wrote: post #26
curiousgeorgio wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I read the article waiting to see the other side of the story, or a least some hints as to what possible justification there could be for the charges. When the other side of the story isn't even mentioned, I'm not sure it qualifies as journalism (even for an opinion piece, that's pretty lousy). It seems we've entered an era of mostly one-sided journalism - a.k.a. persuasive storytelling.

Here's the other side of the story, it's right in the article: >The Metropolitan Police Department in Washington declined to comment Wednesday on why the journalists had been charged along with protesters.

And that right there is the sad part. People actually believe that line makes a news piece fair and objective. It's lazy journalism, especially given the headline.

News flash: when asked about these kinds of things, it's very common for the police to decline to comment. The job of a reporter doesn't (or shouldn't) stop there.

Sorry, you don't just get to say, "this side of the story was easy to write, so we wrote it; it was too hard to find anything for the other side, so we're publishing anyway and that's a fair representation of the facts."

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

#33

Post by dsfyu404ed »

The cops don't need to be told from the top to make journalists lives hard. They've been at odds since basically forever. After all, the "shoot a black guy, get a vacation" system was working well and the media threw a wrench into it (I'm exaggerating but you get the point). They're just jumping at what looks like a chance to be jerks. They don't need to be told "the president wants you to treat the media badly". It's pretty obvious that their interests align.

I think we'll see more behavior like this as they test the waters to see what they can get away with.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

#34

Post by rosser »

FrancoDiaz wrote: post #27
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"At least six journalists were charged with felony rioting after they were arrested while covering the violent protests that took place just blocks from President Trump’s inauguration parade in Washington on Friday, according to police reports and court documents." Literally the first sentence of the article.

You would've thought that the two journalists questioned by the NYT would have defended themselves by saying that they were there working a professional capacity. But they didn't. I'm not buying just because NYT says they were "covering" the protests.

From The Fine Article:

> Mr. Engel, a Brooklyn-based journalist who writes for Vocativ, a media and technology outlet, was among those charged with felony rioting and released. He said by email on Wednesday that he was unable to comment on the case since it was active, but that he was looking forward to the day he could say more.

They can't do what you're asking of them.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

#35

Post by toss1941 »

curiousgeorgio wrote: post #19
jeffdavis wrote: post #8

This kind of reporting encourages people to form opinions before the facts are in. None of us know what really happened there, but it will probably get sorted out soon. By that time, it's too late because we've already jumped to a conclusion.

Agreed. I read the article waiting to see the other side of the story, or a least some hints as to what possible justification there could be for the charges. When the other side of the story isn't even mentioned, I'm not sure it qualifies as journalism (even for an opinion piece, that's pretty lousy). It seems we've entered an era of mostly one-sided journalism - a.k.a. persuasive storytelling.

And it's this kind of reporting that fuels the need for 'alternate facts' because the facts presented so often leave a lot to be desired.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

#37

Post by warbiscuit »

problems wrote: post #28
suprgeek wrote: post #13

This is just the beginning. Our great leader has repeatedly egged on his supporters to attack the media. He constantly criticizes any media agency that dares report facts that are personally embarrassing to him. Or ones that make him look bad or anything that shows that he is not as popular as he claims, or... Imagine that you are a police officer and find some media people among a crowd (who may or may not have set…

He'll be lucky to get the 20% tariff on Mexican imports he currently wants. I'll be surprised if he manages to do anything seriously speech crippling.

Is that a typo? Shouldn't he be taxing exports?

Taxes on imports just raise the price for Americans, it's taxes on exports that would bring money into America.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

#38

Post by meanduck »

I have no sympathy Im afraid. People who cheer to rob certain section of society gets to feel the burn in turn. Karma is a bitch as the saying goes. I just hope lessons have been learnt.

EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-statism The people are the ones who gave their blessing and made state powerful because state promised to share the loot with them. If only people have resisted the temptation ...

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

#40

Post by verroq »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #29
FrancoDiaz wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would've thought that the two journalists questioned by the NYT would have defended themselves by saying that they were there working a professional capacity. But they didn't. I'm not buying just because NYT says they were "covering" the protests.

That is the opposite of what reporters would do. You immediately tell them you're a journalist and they give you special treatment. You don't want special treatment, first you want to write a story about what they do to non-special people.

Then don't be surprised if these "journalists" get detained like the non-special rioters.
Post reply on HN