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Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users

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Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users

#22
This is really strange. Adobe is highlighting the worst parts of their product in their attempt to appear the good guy in the fight. It's as if a politician were attempting to win votes by throwing bricks with political slogans attached through the windows of his constituents. It may have worked for the Nazis, but I don't think it will work for Adobe.

Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users

#23
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also there was a comment, from an Adobe employee, than confirmed this was one of their projects, http://staynalive.com/articles/2010/05/14/adobe-and-google-s...

Actually he confirmed that the Choice campaign was one of their projects and goes on to say that he doubted that Adobe would have wasted bandwidth on developing something so nefarious. At least that's my read of it. "For what it's worth, this project was done with a rather rapid turnaround, and I'd be surprised if there was bandwidth to innovate new ways of disrupting popup disruptors within it...."

The rapid turnaround actually makes me suspect Adobe. Are we to believe that somebody else came up with a fancy js/Flash combo exploit, and decided its first use should be a false flag ad for Adobe based on a day or two old campaign? I don't think Occam's razor is kind to Adobe.

Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users

#24
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually he confirmed that the Choice campaign was one of their projects and goes on to say that he doubted that Adobe would have wasted bandwidth on developing something so nefarious. At least that's my read of it. "For what it's worth, this project was done with a rather rapid turnaround, and I'd be surprised if there was bandwidth to innovate new ways of disrupting popup disruptors within it...."

The rapid turnaround actually makes me suspect Adobe. Are we to believe that somebody else came up with a fancy js/Flash combo exploit, and decided its first use should be a false flag ad for Adobe based on a day or two old campaign? I don't think Occam's razor is kind to Adobe.

You are not taking into account the Apple fanbois that now want Adobe's blood because Flash works so well on Android. Adobe is sticking it to the One True Religion, and the followers aren't happy.

(I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea. I personally hate Flash for technical reasons, but it really comes down to having choice. I don't use Flash and won't develop Flash apps... but you can do whatever you want.)

Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users

#26
I love how they are making use of what is essentially a 'Flash hack' commonly used by shady types to get around popup blockers – load a Flash object and use that to launch a new window – to show a popup preaching the virtues of Flash.

Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users

#27

We shouldn't jump to conclusions. Has anyone else actually confirmed this? His pop-up might have been from elsewhere..

Yes, it's been confirmed, someone else saw the same source, an ad in Google Reader on a Techcrunch article, that I hadn't shared when I was first working on the story. Here is the discussion we were having about it when I went to look into the issue. http://ff.im/kjhfH

Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users

#28
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Bonus for users without Flash installed: the ad doesn't work.

So basically all Adobe is doing is irritating people who are already users of Flash and giving them a reason to disable it.

No, it's advertising the issue to the people who might care about devices not having flash - ie, the people who actually use it

Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rapid turnaround actually makes me suspect Adobe. Are we to believe that somebody else came up with a fancy js/Flash combo exploit, and decided its first use should be a false flag ad for Adobe based on a day or two old campaign? I don't think Occam's razor is kind to Adobe.

You are not taking into account the Apple fanbois that now want Adobe's blood because Flash works so well on Android. Adobe is sticking it to the One True Religion, and the followers aren't happy. (I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea. I personally hate Flash for technical reasons, but it really comes down to having choice. I don't use Flash and won't develop Flash apps... but you can do whatever you want.)

My experience has been that the Adobe fans are way more up in arms about this than the Apple fans. What does an Apple user hope to gain here? That is very unclear to me. The "true believers" have already put the war behind them; the Adobe warriors are the ones still fighting...

Re: Adobe abuses AdSense to force “We Love Apple” pop-ups for Mac, Opera users

#30
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So basically all Adobe is doing is irritating people who are already users of Flash and giving them a reason to disable it.

No, it's advertising the issue to the people who might care about devices not having flash - ie, the people who actually use it

"Imagine you would not see this ad! That's right, the iPad does not shows content like this."

I am flash-free for a year now and don't regret it the slightest.

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