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Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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While many AV companies are really bad, AV per say is still an extra layer of security. Telling people to remove a layer of security is bad advice. There's a problem though and if I knew how to solve it I'd be rich!

if you really want to add an extra layer of security, add the layer outside your computer. You know, like adding a moat outside the castle.

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Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

#292

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>and their behavior has been acceptable compared with that of others like Facebook. If you have the time, would you mind expanding on why you consider Google's behavior better than Facebook's? I find myself very wary of FB but much less so of Google, but I can't really explain why.

You're just biased, because Facebook has way more potential for doing you harm and has used your data against your interests already. Facebook manipulates the emotions of its users: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/28/facebook-... MasterCard to access Facebook user data in order to make you spend more: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/business-it/mastercard-to-ac... Facebook ads use your face for free:…

Short story to support your articles.

I used a fake name on FB since the first day I signed up along with a photo of my favorite rock star. About a year ago, someone outed me and FB locked my account and said unless I emailed them a copy of my drivers license or some form of identification that proved who I was, they would keep my account locked.

I thought, "Whatever, I'll just fire up a new one."

This past month I signed up a new account under a very generic name like "John Johnson". No problems. I never uploaded a photo, just connected with the handful of people (less than 5) and felt like, "ok, we're cool now".

Yesterday, I got the same message and now the links you provided make a lot of sense as to why. FB really is after all of your data and essentially force you to give it to them, otherwise they hold your account hostage. Both times, I really felt like my privacy was being stampeded and this was a big intrusion to get at my personal information. No way am I going to give you an identifiable information about me. I already gave up an account I had used more or less for a decade instead of coughing up my personal information and photo.

So yeah, I'm done with FB - not that I was ever a huge fan, but this past week just confirmed what I always suspected.

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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Commercial companies in free countries may be greedy or unethical, but they are generally predictable and usually follow the letter of the law. A state controlled entity in authoritarian country is another story.

It's just about making a choice of which spy agency is going to get your data. NSA for western companies, KGB-or-whatever for Russian ones. If you live in the West, it may be worth considering both options.

Do you have some facts or reasonable suspicions about western AV companies collaborating with NSA? What I’ve heard they aren’t collaborating, NSA is researching AV vulnerabilities just like bad guys do.

Besides, Russia considers themselves at the state of “hybrid war” against the whole world. It sounds insane but apparently that’s what their government believes, and that’s what their propaganda broadcasts. That’s why an AV product made by a Russian state controlled company carries some unique risks.

Since mid-December, a high-ranking Kaspersky manager, Ruslan Stoyanov, is in jail for high treason. Do you know what kind of deal KGB wants from him? I don’t.

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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Not everyone. FOSS doesn't.

Ubuntu unity sells your searches in the desktop environment by default

Ubuntu is trying very hard to abide by the letter of Free Software but not the spirit. Is there a solution? Simple: don't use it. There are many other distros out there which do abide by the spirit as well as the letter.

Canonical have tried to do some very good things to, and deserve some credit for successfully making Linux more end-user-friendly. They're not terrible people, just folks with a different set of perspectives & incentives from me.

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

#295
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Most people forget the malware on hacked website. Browsers won't give you a warning. (OK. Chrome will show you a RED screen but not for all) They need not hack into your system. But they collected your login info, credit card. I even want to install one on my MacOS. MS AV still too slow at the moment. In Windows 10, you could turn on Defender to run both AV at the same time.

Running Defender with another AV in parallel is not a good idea, it would lead to serious conflicts

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

#296

As someone who develops a (PyQt-based) desktop app [1], I can confirm this: My app has so far falsely been put into quarantine by Avira and McAffee. It's a pain... [1]: https://fman.io

Could you blog / expand on the packaging story for your product please?

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

#297
Any idea why the author is picking on Windows 7 here? Microsoft's free AV works as well on Windows 7 as it does on Windows 10.

Perhaps it should go without saying --- but you also need to your OS to be up-to-date. If you're on Windows 7 or, God forbid, Windows XP, third party AV software might make you slightly less doomed.

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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Commercial companies in free countries may be greedy or unethical, but they are generally predictable and usually follow the letter of the law. A state controlled entity in authoritarian country is another story.

Besides the fact a US company probably cooperates with US intelligence, there are plenty of examples of companies outright breaking the law.

> the fact a US company probably cooperates with US intelligence

“the fact” and “probably” are mutually exclusive.

> plenty of examples of companies outright breaking the law

I know and that’s why I wrote “usually follow the letter of the law”. Majority of the companies follow the law, however.

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

#299
As a former IT support guy, I can't explain how much revenue Norton would generate from me. They would regularly push updates that wiped all the critical software from customer's systems. The software was often obscure products from small vendors. Even in a small office, it was an easy day's work for me that I would not have had otherwise.

After multiple episodes of this, it dawned on me that I shouldn't be able to reinstall the software if Norton truly was removing it. The issue was that Norton's products did indeed remove it as part of an antivirus "update", but they quickly released another "update" that got rid of the problem. I turned off something labeled "pulse" updates and set it to daily instead. Not only did I never see this problem again, the PC's generally had better performance.

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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You're just biased, because Facebook has way more potential for doing you harm and has used your data against your interests already. Facebook manipulates the emotions of its users: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/28/facebook-... MasterCard to access Facebook user data in order to make you spend more: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/business-it/mastercard-to-ac... Facebook ads use your face for free:…

Short story to support your articles. I used a fake name on FB since the first day I signed up along with a photo of my favorite rock star. About a year ago, someone outed me and FB locked my account and said unless I emailed them a copy of my drivers license or some form of identification that proved who I was, they would keep my account locked. I thought, "Whatever, I'll just fire up a new one." This past month I s…

Sure that's scary. But it also sounds like 'anti-fraud'. How could we distinguish the two? They're slammed if they want authentic accounts; they're slammed if folks create large numbers of spam accounts. How do we suppose they could win in this scenario?
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