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Founder salaries after an acquisition: how much?

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Re: Founder salaries after an acquisition: how much?

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Steve Jobs earns $1 a year though Well, yeah, but god knows what he makes in bonuses, and his stock options are out of control. Not to mention the stock he owns, and its rising value (the past month notwithstanding).

He once got a Jet as "payment" in kind.

Re: Founder salaries after an acquisition: how much?

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What's your position after the acquisition? CEO? Lead Developer? Founders shouldn't get too much special consideration-- they should be paid a fair rate for the position they'll be filling. Presumably the extra consideration for your startup is baked into the cash/stock part of the deal.

No special consideration for founders?

Why would they stay?

Re: Founder salaries after an acquisition: how much?

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It really depends on the state of the company and potential earn outs, etc. So it is completely dependent on the situation. I have personally taken less than market value. I would never do that again. I would suggest that a founders value is much higher to the acquiring company than it is to the market. Hence a higher market value. On the other hand you are worth what you negotiate. Their job is to negotiate the best…

I agree. I've taken a salary significantly less than market value after an acquisition and would never do it again. I actually think it caused other people at the company who weren't involved in the deal to discount my ongoing contribution. Whether that was true or not, you should always be paid what you are worth.

On earn-out, I've never seen a company actually hit their earn-out numbers. IMHO, they're usually set up to get the management or shareholders to accept a smaller valuation than they would otherwise. And the earn-out numbers are usually based on the best-case scenarios being presented by the company being acquired. ;) The scenarios were somewhat unrealistic, especially considering the major disruption of going through an acquisition, and possibly increased levels of big-company-bullshit it may take to get sales closed. In some cases, the fictional earnout values were obvious face saving measures for executives and the board.

Re: Founder salaries after an acquisition: how much?

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Steve Jobs earns $1 a year though Well, yeah, but god knows what he makes in bonuses, and his stock options are out of control. Not to mention the stock he owns, and its rising value (the past month notwithstanding).

There are also tax reasons to heavily overweight his compensation in stock options. See IRC § 162(m)

Yes, tax may be the only reason to go for a lower salary / higher aquisition combo.

Re: Founder salaries after an acquisition: how much?

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CRASCH and Flemlord made some great points. I'll also add:

The paying price for your company and your post-transaction salary are separate issues. You wouldn't agree to be acquired for less than you feel your company is worth so why agree to become an employee for less than you feel you're worth.

And don't discount the other kinds of value a larger company can provide. Different positions, your working schedule (4 day week?), company car, etc... Now is the time to ask for what you want.

Re: Founder salaries after an acquisition: how much?

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post #12

What's your position after the acquisition? CEO? Lead Developer? Founders shouldn't get too much special consideration-- they should be paid a fair rate for the position they'll be filling. Presumably the extra consideration for your startup is baked into the cash/stock part of the deal.

No special consideration for founders? Why would they stay?

The importance of "stay" is in the context of the acquiring company, not the acquired one.

Re: Founder salaries after an acquisition: how much?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No special consideration for founders? Why would they stay?

The importance of "stay" is in the context of the acquiring company, not the acquired one.

If an acquiring company treats founding employees the same way it treats the other acquired employees, the founders are likely to run for the door the moment they legally can. Maybe that's OK as far as the acquiring company is concerned. Maybe not.

Re: Founder salaries after an acquisition: how much?

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post #12

What's your position after the acquisition? CEO? Lead Developer? Founders shouldn't get too much special consideration-- they should be paid a fair rate for the position they'll be filling. Presumably the extra consideration for your startup is baked into the cash/stock part of the deal.

No special consideration for founders? Why would they stay?

The special consideration is in the stock options and MAYBE the subsequent position they are offered and not necessarily in the relative compensation for that position.

They usually DON'T stay. But when they do, it's usually due to stock option vesting plans.

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