First they came for the Iranians

Post by nl » Thu, Jan 26, 2017, 9:36 AM UTC

adventured wrote: post #158

panic wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only relevant fact here is that millions more people voted against Trump than for him. The top reason people voted for Trump wasn't to support him or his policies, it was that he wasn't Clinton ( http://www.people-press.org/2016/09/21/in-their-own-words-wh... ). His approval rating is below 50% ( http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-app... ). Trump doesn't represent the majority in any sense o…

OP's premise was in part that only straight white males supported him. The fact is, the majority of white women supported him as well. So OP was wrong on a very, very big part of the premise being floated. Trump's approval is 57% http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trum... The notion that it's useful to pretend Trump represents a tiny group of supporters, for personal emotional comfort over facts,…

Post by panic » Thu, Jan 26, 2017, 9:42 AM UTC

mmrezaie wrote: post #170

guildwriter wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a good way to sweep data like this under the rug: (Left percent is Clinton, Right percent is Trump) White men 31% 63% White women 43 53 White women college graduates 51 45 White women non-college graduates 34 62 White men college graduates 39 54 White men non-college graduates 23 72 ( https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-couldnt-win-ove... ) Like it or not, the fact of the matter is that claiming that…

Do you know any interview or documentary of talking to samples of these populations? I wonder very much what they think. The interviews so far for me personally were showing that they are "morally deaf", but I am sure that this is not all the story (I probably living in my bubble).

Post by e12e » Thu, Jan 26, 2017, 9:45 AM UTC

jekdoce wrote: post #11

Advice from a high-level staffer for a Senator: There are two things that everyone concerned should be doing all the time right now, and they're by far the most important things. You should NOT be bothering with online petitions or emailing. 1. The best thing you can do to be heard and get your congressperson to pay attention is to have face-to-face time - if they have town halls, go to them. Go to their local office…

Post by TorKlingberg » Thu, Jan 26, 2017, 9:47 AM UTC

guard-of-terra wrote: post #5

I come from a country which can't keep its le^Wborders closed in front of anyone. So I pity those students a bit, definitely, but otherwise I'm jealous for this policy. It would address my immediate pain had it been implemented here. And yes, I do care more about my own life in a country I am a citizen of, and safety of my relatives, than about people you call "aliens".

Post by exit » Thu, Jan 26, 2017, 9:48 AM UTC

HeavenBanned wrote: post #2

My father successfully brought over two of our relatives from Iran during the Obama presidency (thanks Obama). They were a doctor and a professional soccer player. However, the other application for his older sister and my mother's brother has been processing for nearly 20 years. She's nearing her 70s. And my mother's brother has all but lost hope. Looks like it's not going to ever happen under Mr. Trump. Oh well. I…