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Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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> At best, there is negligible evidence that major non-MS AV products give a net improvement in security.

I apologize for present anecdote when data is needed but I manage a Windows network with 100+ users and on a daily basis, Kaspersky catches 5-10 emails from Outlook that have nasty attachments. It prevents my users from opening these innocuous looking but nasty Invoice-Jan-2017.docx files. Without a good AV there is no way to know which Invoice-Jan-2017 has a virus/worm vs. which doesn't. Relying on the Office security feature is not sufficient because actual vendor/customers send macro-enabled files to us regularly.

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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post #4

> At best, there is negligible evidence that major non-MS AV products give a net improvement in security. I apologize for present anecdote when data is needed but I manage a Windows network with 100+ users and on a daily basis, Kaspersky catches 5-10 emails from Outlook that have nasty attachments. It prevents my users from opening these innocuous looking but nasty Invoice-Jan-2017.docx files. Without a good AV there…

Does Microsoft security essentials not scan an attachment when you download/open it?

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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post #4

> At best, there is negligible evidence that major non-MS AV products give a net improvement in security. I apologize for present anecdote when data is needed but I manage a Windows network with 100+ users and on a daily basis, Kaspersky catches 5-10 emails from Outlook that have nasty attachments. It prevents my users from opening these innocuous looking but nasty Invoice-Jan-2017.docx files. Without a good AV there…

Are you the target audience for this blog post, though? As far as I can tell, the post talks about one-user setups.

I'd argue that the starting point in a corporate environment, where you can assume that users can be quite negligent, is fundamentally different from a one-user setup, especially since I agree that you can't "fix" the user in corporate.

You want the e-mails gone, not just a warning about it, but a warning is perfectly fine if you're one person and have an idea what you're doing.

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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This is my advice to everyone I know that gets a new Windows PC. Windows 10's built-in protection is more than adequate, and catches the majority of bad software - anything more is unnecessary, and many of the AV vendors are predatory.

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post #4

> At best, there is negligible evidence that major non-MS AV products give a net improvement in security. I apologize for present anecdote when data is needed but I manage a Windows network with 100+ users and on a daily basis, Kaspersky catches 5-10 emails from Outlook that have nasty attachments. It prevents my users from opening these innocuous looking but nasty Invoice-Jan-2017.docx files. Without a good AV there…

Are you the target audience for this blog post, though? As far as I can tell, the post talks about one-user setups. I'd argue that the starting point in a corporate environment, where you can assume that users can be quite negligent, is fundamentally different from a one-user setup, especially since I agree that you can't "fix" the user in corporate. You want the e-mails gone, not just a warning about it, but a warni…

I don't see any caveats in the article about the kind of user that the advice is intended for.

Re: Avoid Non-Microsoft Antivirus Software

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Granny won't believe me :( she feels safer because of some popup that tells her she's safe.

Maybe you could create a scheduled task that opens Windows Defender every 2 hours or so? It also has beautiful green buttons that show her how safe she is, and an orange warning every once in a while when she should do a quick scan. There's also some new security center coming with the next Windows 10 version: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2017/01/23/intro...
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