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Re: FetLife Announcement

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Post by jonlucc »

mschuster91 wrote: post #18
xutopia wrote: post #3

We need more sex positivity in this world. While I agree that some of the contents of Fetlife was objectionable from a legal standpoint the owners did a good job at getting rid of those things. I think the objection today has mostly to do with the fact that they want to tell us what we do in our bedrooms.

> I think the objection today has mostly to do with the fact that they want to tell us what we do in our bedrooms. Yeah we already see the first signs with Trump defunding abortion organizations. However I don't believe Trump to be behind this, much more Mike Pence. And I'm really, really afraid that someone will either successfully impeach, maim or kill Trump - because then Mike Pence will succeed him, without anyon…

I live in Indiana, and I've been living under a Pence government with a Republican supermajority for the last 4 years. It's better than Trump. Yeah, Pence picks ridiculous fights that cost the state a lot of money and he's a socially regressive person who wants to impose his views on everyone, but he's not an unhinged, unstable narcissist. He doesn't make all of his policy within minutes of it being shown on a cable newscast. I'll be able to sleep at night when Trump is replaced by Pence.

Re: FetLife Announcement

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Post by leesalminen »

RileyKyeden wrote: post #13
Shank wrote: post #2

If there was ever a use for [insert favorite crypto currency here] gaining adoption, the killer feature is that payments can't be halted or frozen to accounts. It sounds like they got hit by people who were unaware of what FetLife is following due diligence in processing card transactions. As far as I can discern, it's just a social network with a darker focus, which led to an overreaction from a card network.

It's not dark at all. It's just a place for people to list their kinks. Nothing nefarious. It's very popular in the kinkier sub-communities of the furry fandom. edit: I got this mixed up with F-List, which is similar in function with a narrower focus.

There is definitely a seedy (read: illegal) element to the site which seems to have been going on for years without concrete efforts on the staff's part to eliminate. I'm not talking about kinks, I'm talking about pedophiles and rapists.

Re: FetLife Announcement

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Post by RileyKyeden »

leesalminen wrote: post #22
RileyKyeden wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not dark at all. It's just a place for people to list their kinks. Nothing nefarious. It's very popular in the kinkier sub-communities of the furry fandom. edit: I got this mixed up with F-List, which is similar in function with a narrower focus.

There is definitely a seedy (read: illegal) element to the site which seems to have been going on for years without concrete efforts on the staff's part to eliminate. I'm not talking about kinks, I'm talking about pedophiles and rapists.

I got it mixed up with a similar site with the same acronym. I don't know much about FetLife.

Re: FetLife Announcement

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Post by underdown »

xutopia wrote: post #3

We need more sex positivity in this world. While I agree that some of the contents of Fetlife was objectionable from a legal standpoint the owners did a good job at getting rid of those things. I think the objection today has mostly to do with the fact that they want to tell us what we do in our bedrooms.

I have more faith in the greed of bank CEO's than to believe this is anything other than risk avoidance.

Re: FetLife Announcement

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Post by X86BSD »

mschuster91 wrote: post #16
rhizome wrote: post #8

This has more front-loaded backstory than a recipe post at Pioneer Woman Cooks, but it sounds like a harbinger for Puritan effects on commerce. Who could be next on the list of these card companies? The cannabis world already has their own troubles, so maybe the ratchet will next tighten on them. That a criteria for canceling an account can be "Illegal or immoral," like those are synonyms, is telling.

> The cannabis world already has their own troubles, so maybe the ratchet will next tighten on them IIRC cannabis merchants can't even open bank accounts, much less accept credit cards. The only way that they can be annoyed further is by restricting the amount of cash they can hold in the store - which actually would make sense, given that a pot stop filled to the brim with cash is a prime target for gangsters.

You're correct. AFAIK all those pot shops in Colorado for instance are cash based only. And have vaults built to store all their cash because the banks won't touch it. There was an episode on Vice TV that touched on this I believe.

Re: FetLife Announcement

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Post by mschuster91 »

jonlucc wrote: post #21
mschuster91 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think the objection today has mostly to do with the fact that they want to tell us what we do in our bedrooms. Yeah we already see the first signs with Trump defunding abortion organizations. However I don't believe Trump to be behind this, much more Mike Pence. And I'm really, really afraid that someone will either successfully impeach, maim or kill Trump - because then Mike Pence will succeed him, without anyon…

I live in Indiana, and I've been living under a Pence government with a Republican supermajority for the last 4 years. It's better than Trump. Yeah, Pence picks ridiculous fights that cost the state a lot of money and he's a socially regressive person who wants to impose his views on everyone, but he's not an unhinged, unstable narcissist. He doesn't make all of his policy within minutes of it being shown on a cable…

Trump isn't that unstable, I believe. He's just blindly following the call of profit (except the pussy-grabbing and sexual assault stuff). Most of the decisions of him and his team up to now can be classified as "will make Donald Trump or his team money in some weird way".

And I believe that this will land him in jail or impeachment more sooner than later.

Re: FetLife Announcement

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Post by jerrycruncher »

mschuster91 wrote: post #16
rhizome wrote: post #8

This has more front-loaded backstory than a recipe post at Pioneer Woman Cooks, but it sounds like a harbinger for Puritan effects on commerce. Who could be next on the list of these card companies? The cannabis world already has their own troubles, so maybe the ratchet will next tighten on them. That a criteria for canceling an account can be "Illegal or immoral," like those are synonyms, is telling.

> The cannabis world already has their own troubles, so maybe the ratchet will next tighten on them IIRC cannabis merchants can't even open bank accounts, much less accept credit cards. The only way that they can be annoyed further is by restricting the amount of cash they can hold in the store - which actually would make sense, given that a pot stop filled to the brim with cash is a prime target for gangsters.

In Washington state, at least, a handful of regional credit unions allow deposits from cannabis businesses, and it looks like Colorado may have recently-ish started allowing the same. This, specifically, is for business accounts. The transactions with customers themselves are all in cash.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=washington+cannabis+credit+union

Re: FetLife Announcement

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Post by andreyf »

kefka wrote: post #5
Shank wrote: post #2

If there was ever a use for [insert favorite crypto currency here] gaining adoption, the killer feature is that payments can't be halted or frozen to accounts. It sounds like they got hit by people who were unaware of what FetLife is following due diligence in processing card transactions. As far as I can discern, it's just a social network with a darker focus, which led to an overreaction from a card network.

The the post lies this answer: Why haven't you embraced Bitcoin to get away from the restrictions of the banks / credit card companies? - @Eibon Answer: We used to accept bitcoins through Coinbase. They dropped us a year ago because we are a kinky site. No joke. If a Bitcoin site wants to accept credit cards, then they have to adhere to rules set forth by the credit card companies. Yes, there are other options, and w…

Still don't see why they can't just accept bitcoin. Buying BTC via credit card is trivial via Coinbase (and they won't ban customers), and while they won't get 100%, they're much more likely to get quite a bit more than 0.1% even if BTC is the only payment option.

Re: FetLife Announcement

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Post by goatforce5 »

X86BSD wrote: post #26
mschuster91 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The cannabis world already has their own troubles, so maybe the ratchet will next tighten on them IIRC cannabis merchants can't even open bank accounts, much less accept credit cards. The only way that they can be annoyed further is by restricting the amount of cash they can hold in the store - which actually would make sense, given that a pot stop filled to the brim with cash is a prime target for gangsters.

You're correct. AFAIK all those pot shops in Colorado for instance are cash based only. And have vaults built to store all their cash because the banks won't touch it. There was an episode on Vice TV that touched on this I believe.

There was an amusing tidbit in CNN's High Profits (I think it was) where the Colorado tax department was having to put on extra security because the pot shops were having to pay their taxes by physically handing over bags of cash.
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