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Re: George Orwell’s 1984 is currently the top selling book on Amazon

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Post by ComputerGuru »

dredmorbius wrote: post #36
beloch wrote: post #17

I must admit, I'm really confused by how impeachment works in the U.S.. Clinton was impeached for perjury and abuse of power because he took advantage of his position (and a political intern) and then lied about it. Now we have a president who is not giving up his business interests while in office and who has already told some absolute whoppers, including the release of official press releases that were nothing but…

Impeachment is about politics and power. For whatever reasons (and I still don't fully understand it, no, check that, I don't understand it at all), the Clintons were an absolute hate-magnet for the Right. Clinton's sexual relations -- essentially no different from what any of the GOP opposition leaders turned out to be engaged with, if not far less serious (Dennis Hastert's long-time homosexual exploitation of minor…

> For whatever reasons (and I still don't fully understand it, no, check that, I don't understand it at all), the Clintons were an absolute hate-magnet for the Right

It's funny you mention that, since by all metrics Clinton was about the most conservative democrat to gain office recently. A shame we've steadily moved away from middle-of-the-road since then.

Re: George Orwell’s 1984 is currently the top selling book on Amazon

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Post by mattnewton »

knz wrote: post #65
skylan_q wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why everyone assumes that you can only be a female if you have a vagina

Did you mean femanist? Edit: I'm not sure why I'm getting downvotes... It seems like a reasonable typo OP may have made given the context? > I don't get why everyone assumes that you can only be a female if you have a vagina

you are getting downvotes most likely for confusing gender and sex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction

It's unfortunate because I think you were acting in good faith and an explanation would be more productive

Re: George Orwell’s 1984 is currently the top selling book on Amazon

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Post by sigmar »

flukus wrote: post #53
shard972 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "alternative facts" I think people are taking this and running at breakneck speed without stopping to look at what they actually mean by this. After watching the first few press conferences and Kelly Anne's interviews where she said that, it seems clear to me they weren't trying to say there were more people physically at the inauguration in their "alternative facts" but what they are referring to specifically is t…

Has anyone actually done an unbiased comparison? I've seen the picture but there are plenty of possible explanations for that. And people seem to be reading far to much into it in any case.

>Has anyone actually done an unbiased comparison? I've seen the picture but there are plenty of possible explanations for that.

What better way to compare attendance of an outdoor event other than photos? There are also DC metro numbers, but they don't seem necessary as we have high-resolution images.

>And people seem to be reading far to much into it in any case.

Seems emblematic of bigger issues. Such as: unwillingness to correct previous mistakes, a penchant for conspiracy theories, ego disrupting day-to-day operations.

Re: George Orwell’s 1984 is currently the top selling book on Amazon

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Post by ctchocula »

korrach wrote: post #23
banku_brougham wrote: post #4

This is amazing. The womens marches over the weekend and these seem to be an indicator of a very sudden awakening.

And a falling asleep as soon as a better clown takes control. Trump is marginally worse in content but infinitely worse in presentation. I mean ffs Obama care was a heritage foundation proposal and that's his shining achievement, it would be like Lincoln abolishing slavery by buying all the slaves and then making them work to pay off their freedom.

According to [1], it's similar to a Republican bill from the 1990s, but was not a Heritage Foundation proposal.

> More hard-line senators such as Phil Gramm, R-Texas, House Republicans and the Heritage Foundation saw the Chafee bill as an unacceptable compromise.

[1] http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2013/nov/15/...

Re: George Orwell’s 1984 is currently the top selling book on Amazon

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Post by knieveltech »

TenOhms wrote: post #29
beloch wrote: post #17

I must admit, I'm really confused by how impeachment works in the U.S.. Clinton was impeached for perjury and abuse of power because he took advantage of his position (and a political intern) and then lied about it. Now we have a president who is not giving up his business interests while in office and who has already told some absolute whoppers, including the release of official press releases that were nothing but…

To be fair, alternative facts wasn't meant as sinister as you may have been led to believe. What was meant was "additional" facts.

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining. We all saw the same video. Her intent was quite clear and was backed during the same interview with a naked threat.

Re: George Orwell’s 1984 is currently the top selling book on Amazon

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Post by knz »

mattnewton wrote: post #92
knz wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you mean femanist? Edit: I'm not sure why I'm getting downvotes... It seems like a reasonable typo OP may have made given the context? > I don't get why everyone assumes that you can only be a female if you have a vagina

you are getting downvotes most likely for confusing gender and sex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction It's unfortunate because I think you were acting in good faith and an explanation would be more productive

I'm aware of the difference but assumed it was related to questions about why men may have participated in the march. My mistake apparently!

Re: George Orwell’s 1984 is currently the top selling book on Amazon

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Post by arrosenberg »

beloch wrote: post #17

I must admit, I'm really confused by how impeachment works in the U.S.. Clinton was impeached for perjury and abuse of power because he took advantage of his position (and a political intern) and then lied about it. Now we have a president who is not giving up his business interests while in office and who has already told some absolute whoppers, including the release of official press releases that were nothing but…

I'd say we're probably closer to 25th amendment territory than impeachment. It isn't clear (to the extent the law requires) that Trump has high crimes or treason, and whether he will or not is immaterial until he does. It does appear very clear that he is not fit to discharge his duties, however. What is going to happen the first time there is a crisis like a shooting or a hurricane. The next time the south gets wiped out by a cat 5 they are going to be BEGGING for Brownie to come do a hell of a job.

Re: George Orwell’s 1984 is currently the top selling book on Amazon

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Post by caseysoftware »

knz wrote: post #57
dllthomas wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm really confused by how impeachment works in the U.S. Impeachment requires a crime. Lying isn't usually a crime, and as best I can tell hasn't been one any of the times Trump has done it (.. yet?). It also hasn't been a crime any of the times Obama has done it. Failure to give up business interests is breaking precedent and confounding ethicists, but also doesn't seem to be illegal. When we come up with somethin…

We've probably all seen the emoluments clause raised as one way he may be breaking the law. I'm not a legal expert but I would assume, if it's true, that breaking the Constitution would be illegal? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_of_Nobility_Clause "The Title of Nobility Clause is a provision in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution, that ... restricts members of the government from r…

Except Congress already consented decades ago:

> The financial conflict statute prohibits federal employees from participating in matters where they could enrich themselves. It applies to everyone in the executive branch, from the lowliest file clerk up to the White House chief of staff – except for the president and vice president.

Ref: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/12/07/can-congress...

You could try to convince Congress to re-apply the rules, but that's a different discussion.

Re: George Orwell’s 1984 is currently the top selling book on Amazon

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Post by knieveltech »

noobermin wrote: post #50

While I love 1984, I think Fahrenheit 451 has become more true than Orwell's novel. People have willingly given into an information bonanza that is the internet, with headphones always in (seashells). We don't need the TV walls, as our cellphone has taken that role, altogether with the hyperactive delivery of such content. A collectivist state has not become the dominating power, but wealthy individuals and corporati…

I feel that if you honestly believe the world is unambiguously better now than it was 20-30 years ago this reflects either your youth or privilege more so than any objective truth. I'll just leave this here:

http://thebulletin.org/timeline

Re: George Orwell’s 1984 is currently the top selling book on Amazon

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Post by g00gler »

knz wrote: post #57
dllthomas wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm really confused by how impeachment works in the U.S. Impeachment requires a crime. Lying isn't usually a crime, and as best I can tell hasn't been one any of the times Trump has done it (.. yet?). It also hasn't been a crime any of the times Obama has done it. Failure to give up business interests is breaking precedent and confounding ethicists, but also doesn't seem to be illegal. When we come up with somethin…

We've probably all seen the emoluments clause raised as one way he may be breaking the law. I'm not a legal expert but I would assume, if it's true, that breaking the Constitution would be illegal? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_of_Nobility_Clause "The Title of Nobility Clause is a provision in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution, that ... restricts members of the government from r…

So, wasn't Hillary Clinton breaking the Constitution when she was accepting donations from Saudi Arabia at the Clinton Foundation while secretary of state?
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