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Re: Safari 10.1

#101

Post by om2 »

rtpg wrote: post #88
macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

I have a lot of small extensions I use with Chrome, but that list's getting smaller everyday. The dev tools are not the same, but they're getting pretty close. My main gripe with Safari is that its release schedule is basically tied to OS releases. Ever since Chrome, I've come to love continuous releases. It's extremely satisfying to know that your browser will receive those important security updates quickly. With S…

We're moved to shipping new web developer features twice a year. That's not near as often as Chrome but still a big improvement to once a year, solely with the major OS releases.

This release also has a ton of compatibility and standards compliance fixes.

Re: Safari 10.1

#103

Post by figers »

dested wrote: post #49
j_s wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this mean Safari is no longer the new IE? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9804533

WebRTC is the main killer for me

Agreed, killing me its not working on desktop or ios

Re: Safari 10.1

#104

Post by feross »

j_s wrote: post #30
tdumitrescu wrote: post #7

Whew. Custom Elements, Fetch, and async/await all at once? Christmas came real early in 2017...

Does this mean Safari is no longer the new IE? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9804533

Without WebRTC and Service Workers, I'm still holding my breath.

http://iswebrtcreadyyet.com/

Re: Safari 10.1

#105

Post by MBCook »

ash_gti wrote: post #68
arvinsim wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developers love Chrome because its Devtools are second to none.

I don't know why but I find the Safari Dev Tools to be more usable than the Chrome ones... but that might be a stylistic preference. I've been working with Xcode and iOS since Xcode 3.0, so maybe the UX is just something I've grown accustomed to.

For a long time they were identical, then Safari made some changes that made them MUCH worse. But in the last few years I found that fixed and I haven't gone reaching for chrome in quite a while.

Re: Safari 10.1

#106

Post by MBCook »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #98

“Reduced Motion Media Query” The extents to which Apple goes for people with disabilities is as baffling as it is commendable. I can’t think of another company in any industry that does so much.

Why is it baffling?

It doesn't seem very extreme to expose accuser preference.

It's not like they invented something to try and describe to blind users what a WebGL view is drawing.

Re: Safari 10.1

#107

Post by mwfunk »

philliphaydon wrote: post #96
simonhamp wrote: post #91

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Funny. But there is still an escape key and it's not altogether impossible to use

Unless of course you touch type in which case you end up looking at the keyboard now....

Whether or not that's true for someone, "looking at the keyboard" != "impossible to use".

Re: Safari 10.1

#108

Post by robotmlg »

rtpg wrote: post #88
macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

I have a lot of small extensions I use with Chrome, but that list's getting smaller everyday. The dev tools are not the same, but they're getting pretty close. My main gripe with Safari is that its release schedule is basically tied to OS releases. Ever since Chrome, I've come to love continuous releases. It's extremely satisfying to know that your browser will receive those important security updates quickly. With S…

You might want to consider the Safari Technology Preview. Updates every 2 weeks! https://webkit.org/downloads/

(Although, it has had some pretty major bugs. There was about a month where commenting on Github was broken, and currently JIRA doesn't even render.)

Re: Safari 10.1

#109

Post by ash_gti »

philliphaydon wrote: post #96
simonhamp wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny. But there is still an escape key and it's not altogether impossible to use

Unless of course you touch type in which case you end up looking at the keyboard now....

The tocuh bars pretty accessible, you can use ^[ as well.

I've remapped my caps to escape since I never use capslock.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by eridius »

philliphaydon wrote: post #96
simonhamp wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny. But there is still an escape key and it's not altogether impossible to use

Unless of course you touch type in which case you end up looking at the keyboard now....

No you don't. Why would you? Touch-typing relies on you knowing where each key is, and the Escape key is still in the same place it always was.
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