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Re: Firefox 51.0

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Post by jwilk »

Animats wrote: post #52
ngokevin wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, Service Workers allow content to be downloaded in the background and to be made offline. Mainstream gaming will never catch on the Web. But Mozilla is working on WebVR to create an open and distributed platform for VR ( https://mozvr.com ). You'll be able to publish VR content in seconds and traverse from world to world. WebGL2 is exciting for that space.

Service Workers allow content to be downloaded in the background and to be made offline. In practice, service workers seem to mostly be drive-by installs of forms of hostile code. Look at "about:serviceworkers" in Firefox to see what's running. Did you ask for any of those? I have, excluding sites where I have a login: * https://www.youtube.com , https://plus.google.com I've never signed into Youtube, or Google, on t…

To disable service workers, set dom.serviceWorkers.enabled=false in about:config.

Re: Firefox 51.0

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Post by ams6110 »

2bitencryption wrote: post #64
mrmondo wrote: post #57

From 2014: "Choose Firefox now, or you won't get a choice later" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12579163

After reading that article in 2014, I switched to Firefox. I used it from that point until just a few weeks ago when a program bypassed my defaults and launched Chrome. And I immediately remembered why I preferred Chrome and how much more responsive it feels, and how it handles plugins and per-tab processes and uses a quarter the memory somehow. So now I'm back on Chrome. Felt good to be on FF for awhile, felt like I…

I use FF for almost everything but when it comes to Google stuff (Gmail, Docs, Sheets, etc.) I use Chromium. Firefox crashes on me too much with those apps and though I generally don't lose work it's a pain to have to relaunch and get back to where I was.

Re: Firefox 51.0

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Post by DavideNL »

...still no "smooth pinch-to-zoom" like Safari and Chromium have had for years :'(

Zooming is such a basic thing, and it really sucks in Firefox in my opinion (using a Macbook with its trackpad that is.. if using a mouse it obviously doesn't apply)

Re: Firefox 51.0

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Post by Cyph0n »

runarberg wrote: post #88
po1nter wrote: post #74

This will be the first software that I use everyday (and that I know of) that speaks my native tongue: Kabyle. It might not mean much to the rest of the world, especially since we're not that many native speakers, but I'm loving the fact that they've added it.

Kabyle has about 20 times more native speakers than my native language, Icelandic. In contrast I have been using software in my native language for as long as I remember. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabyle_language

Well, Kabyle looks like the language of a minority in Algeria. On the other hand, Icelandic is the national (and official) language of a sovereign state. In other words, Icelandic has more cultural and financial backing, which is why it's more widespread.

By the way, I'd really love to visit Iceland some day. My cousin went there a few years back and he said it was amazing!

Re: Firefox 51.0

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Post by nandhp »

dmit wrote: post #80
hannob wrote: post #55

The password warning is a great move by Mozilla. They tackle a very common misconception: Many people think it's enough to transfer the password encrypted, because they think https is only about secrecy. But it's crucial to also submit the form via https, otherwise attackers can mess with the form itself. A lot of webpages will be surprised by this, there are still quite a few who have insecure login forms.

But you also need to serve the page that links to the form via https, otherwise it's vulnerable to the same attack (just one step longer). Which probably means you need to serve everything over https. And even then you need HSTS in order to avoid MITM agents downgrading https back to http. And even then you want to register your site so that at least some of the major browsers preload your HSTS info ( https://www.chr…

> But you also need to serve the page that links to the form via https

Yes, in the limit. But current best-practices for user caution ("when you're entering personal information, check the address bar for the domain name you're expecting [and a lock icon]") would be enough to thwart that attack.

Re: Firefox 51.0

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Post by benjaminjackman »

debaserab2 wrote: post #16

Side note: I absolutely love the format that Firefox does their release notes in. They're organized really well and do a good job of speaking with the right language for the audience of each change. I can't think of another product that does release notes as well as them. Usually your hunting down ticket numbers (often on a private tracker) that are referenced from a changelog.

That parts good but the presentation is really bad on mobile for me. There is a position sticky header eating up a third of the page at the top and no option for reader mode on safari mobile. Firefox mobile has the sticky issue but it's reader mode seems to work.

Re: Firefox 51.0

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Post by AgentME »

BoysenberryPi wrote: post #15

I see the WebGL improvements and how on their blog they market it as "Firefox Gets Better Video Gaming" and I really have to say, as a game developer, I really don't want the future of gaming to be on the web. This is more than just Javascript hate. It's hard to monetize games if you aren't going free to play with microtransactions. And really, on a personal level, I just like downloading games and playing them offli…

Gaming on the web isn't really that new: see the popularity of Flash games. All this progress just means that doesn't have to be based on old closed plugins.

Re: Firefox 51.0

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Post by scholia »

2bitencryption wrote: post #64
mrmondo wrote: post #57

From 2014: "Choose Firefox now, or you won't get a choice later" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12579163

After reading that article in 2014, I switched to Firefox. I used it from that point until just a few weeks ago when a program bypassed my defaults and launched Chrome. And I immediately remembered why I preferred Chrome and how much more responsive it feels, and how it handles plugins and per-tab processes and uses a quarter the memory somehow. So now I'm back on Chrome. Felt good to be on FF for awhile, felt like I…

> and uses a quarter the memory somehow.

I thought Chrome was famous for being a resource hog. It consumes more RAM on my Windows PCs, though I confess I use more tabs than are viable in Chrome....

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