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post #9

yeah, it feels like in 2010, you had awesome mac and pc options. Snow Leopard was perhaps the best OS ever.

I really liked the fluid looking UI, the bulb-like window control buttons and the nice glass effects. Modern macOS GUI is not that interesting or nice to work with.

[1] http://cdn.redmondpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/MacOSXS...

Re: My personal fight against the modern laptop [video]

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post #9

yeah, it feels like in 2010, you had awesome mac and pc options. Snow Leopard was perhaps the best OS ever.

I really liked the fluid looking UI, the bulb-like window control buttons and the nice glass effects. Modern macOS GUI is not that interesting or nice to work with. [1] http://cdn.redmondpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/MacOSXS...

Yeah. It's like they are applying blindly flat principle without any taste for something nice or pleasant to look at. Maybe in the future, we will go back to something like this.

Re: My personal fight against the modern laptop [video]

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post #6
post #3

He's right about the new keyboards on ThinkPads - fortunately I use mine with dock and external keyboard most of the time, but every time I am forced to use it without dock it's infuriating how much worse the keyboard is compared to older models.

Sadly yes, I'm still using my x220 rather than move to a x260 because of the keyboard.

I'm on a x200s. Except for a brighter screen, I'm not missing anything though.

Re: My personal fight against the modern laptop [video]

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post #9

yeah, it feels like in 2010, you had awesome mac and pc options. Snow Leopard was perhaps the best OS ever.

Snow Leopard was so stable. I went months at a time without restarting or having major bugs. I wish we could get that reliability back.

Re: My personal fight against the modern laptop [video]

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post #7

I really wish they still made the x61(t)s. :( Nothing currently available at any price really holds a candle to them. :(

Yeah, I moved from an x61t that had a cracked motherboard, after however many years, to a thinkpad yoga 12 with stylus and touchscreen. After about a week of use, I was in the bath, and I wanted to do something with my laptop, and I reached over and typed something into chromium. I didn't realize that the new yoga's don't have flow through keyboards! My laptop was ruined by the water from the wetness of my hand! Now the laptop is fixed, and a few months later I can say, the screen hurts my eyes (never had that problem before), the feet on the bottom have all come unglued, battery life is acceptable but not great, battery cannot be hotswapped, that's for sure, but mostly, I feel that this new yoga just doesn't have the sex appeal of the x61t. I could hold that x61t from any corner (probably how the motherboard eventually cracked) and the laptop just felt balanced and solid. There was no creaking of plastic on plastic, no hollow "softness"... I don't know, that laptop just was so perfect, and the yoga 12 feels like they just didn't put as much love into it. When I turn on the LEDs unter the keyboard ( a new feature ) light leaks out of some keys around the edges, while not leaking out from other keys, and the leaks shine brighter than the screen, again hurting my eyes. The power and volume keys on the right edge are hard to feal, so I have to look at them to use them, hardly convenient. There are all sorts of extra bright leds on the keyboard like the FN lock light. I've taken to turning off the fn keys because that LED drives me crazy. And the new flat powerconnector is total shit when I want to change from laptop to tablet mode. I have to unplug it and replug it! Why move from a connector that could rotate "automatically" to one that gets all twisted up and will have to be replaced in a year or two? And the keyboard that is supposed to lock in tablet mode makes weird crackling noises when transitioning from one mode to the other. And the RAM is hard wired onto the motherboard and cannot be upgraded.

All this in a laptop which cost more than the x61t. WTF :( I want my real thinkpad back!

Re: My personal fight against the modern laptop [video]

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post #7

I really wish they still made the x61(t)s. :( Nothing currently available at any price really holds a candle to them. :(

Yeah, I moved from an x61t that had a cracked motherboard, after however many years, to a thinkpad yoga 12 with stylus and touchscreen. After about a week of use, I was in the bath, and I wanted to do something with my laptop, and I reached over and typed something into chromium. I didn't realize that the new yoga's don't have flow through keyboards! My laptop was ruined by the water from the wetness of my hand! Now…

Oh, and I forgot one of my biggest gripes. There are no arrow keys in tablet mode! How the fuck am I supposed to read in tablet mode without arrow keys? Constantly reach out and touch and drag the screen? Are you kidding me?

Re: My personal fight against the modern laptop [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I moved from an x61t that had a cracked motherboard, after however many years, to a thinkpad yoga 12 with stylus and touchscreen. After about a week of use, I was in the bath, and I wanted to do something with my laptop, and I reached over and typed something into chromium. I didn't realize that the new yoga's don't have flow through keyboards! My laptop was ruined by the water from the wetness of my hand! Now…

Oh, and I forgot one of my biggest gripes. There are no arrow keys in tablet mode! How the fuck am I supposed to read in tablet mode without arrow keys? Constantly reach out and touch and drag the screen? Are you kidding me?

I also forgot, that I had to UPDATE THE EUFI/BIOS to get the fan to work after ACPI resume! The origional EUFI/BIOS was actually broken.

Re: My personal fight against the modern laptop [video]

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post #10

The new thinkpad keyboards are absolutely shitty. I am happy that more people are complaining about it. The classic thinkpad keyboard had nice ergonomic aspects. You can touch-type the function keys without looking down, because they are all grouped in four. The arrow keys are proper sized buttons (even the macbook has it wrong). There is a slight curvature on each key's surface that makes it easy for the finger to f…

Funnily enough the curvature was the reason I didn't like Thinkpad before.

Now, after moving to chiclet, I find Thinkpad keyboards (especially T series) to be the best on the market.

Re: My personal fight against the modern laptop [video]

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post #9

yeah, it feels like in 2010, you had awesome mac and pc options. Snow Leopard was perhaps the best OS ever.

Snow Leopard was so stable. I went months at a time without restarting or having major bugs. I wish we could get that reliability back.

(12:46) ~/src/landedcost/main-site/app/utils [vikram7119-master] $ uptime 12:47 up 15 days, 17:26, 4 users, load averages: 2.09 2.15 1.95

Sierra has been an absolute rock for me.

My last reboot was due to an OS update.

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