Google started stealing content a long time ago on their search page... sometime displaying almost whole pages of content as the first "search result" so that the user doesn't even need to visit the source.
Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing
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Re: Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
IIRC Google already does this. But it doesn't solve the same problem as AMP does. With your solution, site A can load at 2s and site B at 3s, and site A will win. With AMP, sites A and B can both load in 200ms by easily integrating with an open standard. Also: all this talk of "lock-in" and "centralization". With the approach you proposed, the publisher with the most money to spend on dev resources wins the highest s…
really? cause I don't see any discrete indicator that this page loads blazing fast. just rankings. meanwhile, people itt are claiming that they deliberately seek out the little thunderbolt as proof of quality. why can't the little thunderbolt be awarded to HackerNews too, even outside the AMP ecosystem?
But that's different from the argument being made in the article, which is that AMP as a performance booster is "bad" because it "breaks links".
Re: Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
The spec for amp specifically has an "amp-ad" tag for displaying ads. There are multiple ways they can be shown in an AMP page. The nice thing about AMP ads is they will not cause the page to change layout/flow as they load. I believe a size must be declared for ads to prevent bad behavior. https://www.ampproject.org/docs/reference/components/amp-ad
I didn't say they couldn't show ads, but basic ads aren't the only way that these places monetize. Trackers, 'you might also like' panels, etc all feed in to the overall monetization strategy. A couple of amp-approved ads on an amp-page don't necessarily make up for all that...
Re: Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing
#154Do we really need Instant Articles (Facebook) and AMP (Google) when we can accomplish fast loading pages with plain, uncomplicated HTML and CSS? I feel that many web developers don't realise that simple HTML and CSS is often all you need to make clear, fast loading pages. No complicated tricks or techniques required. You can make the page reasonably pleasant in appearance too. Think of the sites you often visit: news…
I wonder if original dns resolution wasn't to blame... or either load or lack of a recent one on your server. I know I'm a little late to the party in this thread.
Re: Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing
#155Cloudflare is doing this AMP crap too. If a cloudflare user enables AMP on his site then links from their domain to yours will trigger a visit of Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Cloudflare-AMP/1.0; + https://amp.cloudflare.com/bot ) AppleWebKit/534.34" which then mirrors the content from your domain and re-hosts it on Cloudflare servers. Then whenever someone goes to the Cloudflare user's website and clicks a link to your w…
Re: Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing
#156Re: Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing
#157Creating a new fork of HTML only means less resources for publishers to spend on their existing sites, creating an ever-increasing divergence in experience. Google already had a great way to enforce better performance by taking it into account for search rankings - which it already uses as we've seen just a few days ago to discourage popup modals.
Another issue is that Google's adtech software is the most popular across the web and one of the primary reasons ads are slow in the first place. They've made improvements to speed up ads but they again hold an incredible amount of leverage to force better practices like smaller assets, less JS, async loading, https, no flash, etc and yet still havent don't anything about it.
It seems like AMP was some small side project that's easy to praise and get attention without actually fixing any of the root causes for the web cruft issue, ultimately hurting everyone in the long run.
Re: Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't say they couldn't show ads, but basic ads aren't the only way that these places monetize. Trackers, 'you might also like' panels, etc all feed in to the overall monetization strategy. A couple of amp-approved ads on an amp-page don't necessarily make up for all that...
I'm pretty sure 'all that' is what users are trying to avoid with AMP.
Re: Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing
#159Re: Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing
#160What about the value of seconds amd bandwidth saved for millions of people who get pages a bit faster due to a project like AMP?