This sounds like someone at Fortune trying to do something industrious and then getting smacked by the higher-ups. I wonder how many good ideas are quashed simply because of policy.
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#92Actually, all this hoopla got me to read the excerpts, and I'm thinking about getting the book (when it comes out).
so... then I wonder... Is this -- all of this -- clever advertising?
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#93This sounds like someone at Fortune trying to do something industrious and then getting smacked by the higher-ups. I wonder how many good ideas are quashed simply because of policy.
a better technique would probably have been to apologize to techcrunch for telling them the wrong thing, and then asking to take it down. as opposed to telling arrington that he misunderstood.
He used the word "miscommunication" not "misunderstood." To me, miscommunication leaves open the possibility that they told him the wrong thing, but did not mean to do so. All in all, I found the emails fairly polite (though somewhat panicky).
Isn't this also the guy who involved in a huge "miscommunication" over the Crunch Pad? It's suspicious that Arrington is repeatedly on the receiving end of miscommunications, no?
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is neilc's post getting downvoted ? - it seems a perfectly valid contribution to the discussion.
On the one hand, yes, he has a valid point, but I'd guess the downvotes are from people who feel that being unclear in your communication, then calling repeatedly over and over to have you take down a post full of glowing praise and preorder links on a hugely popular blog, then, when you refuse to edit what is probably the best PR the book's had so far, threatening to sue you to have you take it down. Fortune could h…
'Sorry, we miscommunicated, could you trim down your excerpts? Here are some example quotes you might want to include instead.'
Didn't they do that, minus the example quotes?
I'm honestly confused here.
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#95Arrington has a law degree, millions of dollars, and a massively popular platform. He don't scare easy.
"Arrington has a law degree, millions of dollars, and a massively popular platform."
It's just sad that is what it takes to be able to stand up to legal bullying.
(Not sure that legal bullying is happening here, but certainly Arrington can stand up to it, and most people can't.)
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#96Personally, I like that he is standing up for himself. Playing chicken with Arrington might not be the best idea. From what I've seen in the past (posts like this) he is more than open about what people say in (assumed) private e-mails/phone calls. My guess is they back off shortly. No one likes having their dirty laundry airing to the public. Thought they could push him around behind closed doors.
I don't see much to be ashamed of in the emails posted so far.
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#97This has such a linkbait headline. This is some completely uninteresting drama about, at least to me. But the headline is such that my impulse is to click on it. I guess that makes me weak. But why do people upvote shit like this in the first place? Do people really care about some squabble TechCrunch are having with some other crowd? Is this really actually interesting to hackers? I really hate when I come here and…
Although you are at -2, I'll answer you anyway. It's interesting to me because it shows me how things really work inside.
Deconstructing stuff to find out how it works is part of hacking. Now I understand better how Forture gets an exclusive and how they go around and ask blogs to cover and promote it, and how bloggers think when they receive such offers.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe I misread the article, but it looks like the Fortune PR person never, ever states that TechCrunch is only supposed to post portions of the excerpts. This is the closest I could find: > And if you don’t mind, once you’ve read the excerpts, please let me know if you choose not to post on one and not the other or both, which of course we would love. Now, IANAL but nowhere in there does it say to not post the excer…
Copyright is reserved unless explicitly given. That is, what you have said may be perfectly true, and Arrington could still be in the wrong. All they have to have done is to not give him explicit permission.
And I'm surprised so many here seem to be getting this wrong. Copyright law is very important for anyone interested in the software business to understand.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe I misread the article, but it looks like the Fortune PR person never, ever states that TechCrunch is only supposed to post portions of the excerpts. This is the closest I could find: > And if you don’t mind, once you’ve read the excerpts, please let me know if you choose not to post on one and not the other or both, which of course we would love. Now, IANAL but nowhere in there does it say to not post the excer…
Copyright is reserved unless explicitly given. That is, what you have said may be perfectly true, and Arrington could still be in the wrong. All they have to have done is to not give him explicit permission.
Practically speaking, he is not in the wrong at all. What exactly do you think Simon&Schuster can do, sue him? Can you imagine going up to a federal judge and seeking an injunction for infringement for a guy who posted excerpts of a book that were already online? What exactly are the damages?
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the one hand, yes, he has a valid point, but I'd guess the downvotes are from people who feel that being unclear in your communication, then calling repeatedly over and over to have you take down a post full of glowing praise and preorder links on a hugely popular blog, then, when you refuse to edit what is probably the best PR the book's had so far, threatening to sue you to have you take it down. Fortune could h…
'Sorry, we miscommunicated, could you trim down your excerpts? Here are some example quotes you might want to include instead.' Didn't they do that, minus the example quotes? I'm honestly confused here.
Expecting immediate action at six AM is a bit silly, as is calling three times at that hour especially when you know the guy was up as late as 2 AM. I realize it's a priority, but expecting 24-7 service when someone's doing you a favor is a bit unreasonable.