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China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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VPNs have so many uses besides subverting censorship. How are off site workers supposed to connect to their intranets? Or individuals to secure public wifis, etc. Isn't VPN just an encrypted connection to another computer.

It is very difficult; e.g. Accessing Microsoft corpnet from behind the gfw. It kind of works, but isn't reliable.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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> "No unauthorized use of VPNs through March 2018." I was wondering, "what just happened internally in China that they want to censor for a year or so?" Then it dawned on me...they want to censor everything until the 2018 Winter Olympics is over with. I was wondering if Trump had tweeted, "free Tibet," or something like that.

What would the 2018 Winter Olympics have anything to do with anything?

At the 2008 Beijing summer olympics they actually reduced the censorship a little until the games were over.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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The same way they do it currently. I'm in Shanghai as an exchange student and I get very different connection quality depending on whether I'm using the WLAN on campus (fast, some Google-owned services work even without VPN), using my mobile connection specifically catering to foreigners (4G, no noticeable slowdown with VPN) or the "citizen grade" connection at the flat I'm renting. I have observed speeds of 10 MiB/s…

Curious if you are in NYU Shanghai? I think that's the only campus in China where you get unfiltered Internet.

No, SJTU. Internet access is not completely unfiltered, just less filtered than outside.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would the 2018 Winter Olympics have anything to do with anything?

At the 2008 Beijing summer olympics they actually reduced the censorship a little until the games were over.

But 2018 Winter Olympics are in South Korea. Not sure if you thought Beijing was hosting 2018, or if you thought that Beijing ups the censors every Olympics each time. https://www.pyeongchang2018.com

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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> "No unauthorized use of VPNs through March 2018." I was wondering, "what just happened internally in China that they want to censor for a year or so?" Then it dawned on me...they want to censor everything until the 2018 Winter Olympics is over with. I was wondering if Trump had tweeted, "free Tibet," or something like that.

What would the 2018 Winter Olympics have anything to do with anything?

The 2018 games are in S. Korea, which could be problematic since China has banned all kpop, and Korean entertainment in general in response to S. Korea's missile defense upgrades [1].

It would be very difficult to cover the games without any singing or tv drama stars being on screen at some point. Not sure if the Olympics themselves would fall under "Korean entertainment" or not.

1) http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/11/29/china-bans-korean...

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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About a 6 months ago, all of our open VPN and softether VPNs was blocked, setting up new ones where blocked in 10 minutes. So we changed to shadowsock and it's been working since, it seems harder for them to detect.

Indeed, Shadowsocks is great but it's just a socks5 proxy under the hood.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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End user access starts in a provincial/regional network, which is connected to a national "backbone", which maybe allows the traffic out of the country. In my experience there's massive packet loss between the province and "backbone". 40% loss is regular throughout the day. Stuff within China mostly works, but anything outside is flaky at best. Now obviously enterprise can't put up with that crap, so there's better r…

I buy unfiltered Internet for my org. We don't use VPN. It's super expensive. Email me if anyone likes. I prefer not to discuss it in public here because I'm not sure what the ramifications could be. It's a grey area in the market here.

a black market for network connections... gibson must be proud.
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