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China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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post #6

> "No unauthorized use of VPNs through March 2018." I was wondering, "what just happened internally in China that they want to censor for a year or so?" Then it dawned on me...they want to censor everything until the 2018 Winter Olympics is over with. I was wondering if Trump had tweeted, "free Tibet," or something like that.

What would the 2018 Winter Olympics have anything to do with anything?

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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When my daughter was in Beijing last year in school, virtually all of the U.S. students in her class used VPNs to access Youtube and other american content. I got the impression they were quite common amongst the Beijingers too.

every other web page you see (as a foreigner) from China seems to have a VPN ad on it, and of course you can roll your own. Strangely if you roam on your phone (or mine at least) there's no need you get unfiltered data .... and most importantly Google rather than (ugh) bing

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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post #35

How would they discriminate between business people traveling to China (who probably wouldn't travel if their VPN was blocked) vs Chinese citizens?

The same way they do it currently. I'm in Shanghai as an exchange student and I get very different connection quality depending on whether I'm using the WLAN on campus (fast, some Google-owned services work even without VPN), using my mobile connection specifically catering to foreigners (4G, no noticeable slowdown with VPN) or the "citizen grade" connection at the flat I'm renting. I have observed speeds of 10 MiB/s…

Curious if you are in NYU Shanghai? I think that's the only campus in China where you get unfiltered Internet.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I confirm that is indeed megabit per month. (324 gigabytes, or about $0.93 per gigabyte) Yeah, harsh. But hey, it's black market internet access.

> megabit (324 gigabytes, or about $0.93 per gigabyte) A megabit is a million bits, or an 1/8 of a megabyte, what do you mean 324 gigabytes?

Sounds like he means 1 Mbps throughput, not 1 Mb transferred.

1 megabit of leased throughput, 24/7 over a month, adds up to 324 GB of data transferred.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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When my daughter was in Beijing last year in school, virtually all of the U.S. students in her class used VPNs to access Youtube and other american content. I got the impression they were quite common amongst the Beijingers too.

Every hotel I've stayed at in China that caters to Westerners had a VPN in place. You could check your Gmail at the hotel but not outside of it (unless you had your own VPN).

Only true in Shenzhen and Guangzhou, not any other city in china as far as I can tell.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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post #25
post #23

End user access starts in a provincial/regional network, which is connected to a national "backbone", which maybe allows the traffic out of the country. In my experience there's massive packet loss between the province and "backbone". 40% loss is regular throughout the day. Stuff within China mostly works, but anything outside is flaky at best. Now obviously enterprise can't put up with that crap, so there's better r…

$300 per megabit?? Did you mean GB or TB maybe?

I think he means per mbit/s, not per mbit.

e.g. $300 would get an unmetered line with a 1mbit/s max throughput

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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post #17

Here's my translation as a Chinese native, though I'm no technical expert. Companies that provide IDC, ISP, CDN services, without authorization, are prohibited to set up or lease connections (including virtual private networks), to conduct business operations across borders. I guess it means if you're a ISP etc, you're not allowed to sell VPN services without authorization. It says nothing about individuals purchasin…

As much as I hate regulations on Internet access, the title as of now is an inaccurate description of the regulations in terms of the target audience. I hope someone can summarize the translation above as a more accurate title.
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