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Re: Free Software Foundation Priority Projects

#21
I'm actually happy that the FSF has considered this one:

- Free phone operating system

They don't have the for-profit nature of both Mozilla and Canonical and perhaps supporting the FSF over either of those 2 (Mozillas failed FFOS and no availability of the UbuntuOS mobile devices) will ensure a stable OS that isn't Google-ware.

PS. I know Mozilla isn't for-profit, but they abandoned FFOS just like a for-profit would

Re: Free Software Foundation Priority Projects

#22

This is the right thing to do and I hope it is not too little too late. Free/libre OSS won the battle for the server, lost the battle for the desktop, but desktop is not (that) relevant anymore. FLOSS phone ecosystem will be hard to next to impossible, in my opinion, but worth going into. Self-hosted server side software has a very good chance of succeeding. For a long time I essentially wanted something like Synolog…

Given the popularity of SaaS and Electron apps, I think everyone lost the battle for the desktop.

Re: Free Software Foundation Priority Projects

#23
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Free/libre OSS won the battle for the server, lost the battle for the desktop I don't think it lost the battle on desktop - if you don't rely on platform(or interest)-specific software like the adobe/microsoft suites and some 3A games then you'll be more than fine on the linux desktop.

Shame that the battle for the desktop is actually (mostly) being fought on the laptop - and Linux sucks there. The default settings are usually extremely poor for powersaving. Why doesn't powertop+TLP get installed, configured and activated by default when Ubuntu/Fedora detects its installed on a laptop? Also, sleeping still isn't reliable (if I close my Macbook with some work on I can be damn sure it'll be exactly a…

I use linux on laptop and I don't have problems(especially with xubuntu). I just install the base, run additional drivers, install the wifi/gpu drivers and done. It was always like this on my previous laptops and on others' laptops I've installed it.

Power saving on windows is an illusion, I don't remember getting more things done with the same laptop. Maybe it's the case if you use Unity/KDE/Gnome3 and similar heavy stuff... If you want to spare more energy then use integrated graphics and amd|nvidia only if you want to play. Bumblebee can also help. Using XFCE, Firefox, playing videos with vlc(not with web players!), installing a blocking extension for your browser, avoiding electron/jvm/mono-based apps(ironic, I'm a Scala developer) can also reduce energy consumption. I use neovim for coding and it's a huge boost for me.

Suspending was always realiable on ubuntu for me. But with arch or arch-based distros it's a ~70% possibility for failure(according to my experience). On the other, hand putting windows to sleep is a serious hazard, it's not just hurts performance but it makes the os and its apps unstable(I use win7 at work).

I've heard that there are people with wifi problems but connection drops and packet losses are issues which are better to be reported. There is askubuntu.com, you can get help pretty fast by searching or asking.

Re: Free Software Foundation Priority Projects

#24
> Encourage contribution by people underrepresented in the community

Why is this necessary? There's no force keeping people from contributing, they are just choosing not to.

edit: To those downvoting me, can you please explain to me what is wrong with what I said?

Re: Free Software Foundation Priority Projects

#25
post #12

I think there is too much politics behind fsf. Instead of battling for users they are battling for licenses.

Battling for licenses is a symptom of too little and small-thinking politics, not too much. Fortunately they included https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/free-softwar... which is a step toward engaging in something more.

That's what I actually meant.

Re: Free Software Foundation Priority Projects

#26

> Encourage contribution by people underrepresented in the community Why is this necessary? There's no force keeping people from contributing, they are just choosing not to. edit: To those downvoting me, can you please explain to me what is wrong with what I said?

The absence of minority representation is itself a factor that deters minority involvement.

Re: Free Software Foundation Priority Projects

#27
post #26

> Encourage contribution by people underrepresented in the community Why is this necessary? There's no force keeping people from contributing, they are just choosing not to. edit: To those downvoting me, can you please explain to me what is wrong with what I said?

The absence of minority representation is itself a factor that deters minority involvement.

I am afraid I don't see how lack of minority representation is a factor in open source software. How does one's race or gender affect whether or not they submit code?

edit: Again, if you are downvoting me, please explain so I can understand. I'm not arguing for the sake of argument.

Re: Free Software Foundation Priority Projects

#28

This is the right thing to do and I hope it is not too little too late. Free/libre OSS won the battle for the server, lost the battle for the desktop, but desktop is not (that) relevant anymore. FLOSS phone ecosystem will be hard to next to impossible, in my opinion, but worth going into. Self-hosted server side software has a very good chance of succeeding. For a long time I essentially wanted something like Synolog…

> FLOSS phone ecosystem will be hard to next to impossible, in my opinion, but worth going into

You can run Android without gapps fairly well, I believe there's even a project that replaces gapps and uses xposed to fake signatures so that they look legitimate to replace Google Maps and other in-app widgets frequently used on Android. Or you can run with GApps if you're willing to tolerate some level of proprietary software.

FLOSS on phones is actually in a quite good state, F-Droid is pretty good, many well maintained open source roms. Better than most other platforms.

Re: Free Software Foundation Priority Projects

#29

> Encourage contribution by people underrepresented in the community Why is this necessary? There's no force keeping people from contributing, they are just choosing not to. edit: To those downvoting me, can you please explain to me what is wrong with what I said?

Putting polical corectness aside, it's important to have as a varied crowd as possible using your software, to figure out what's still missing, where you still fall short.

I saw that happening time and time again - something I didn't consider important at all, was essential for other folks. One example - if no blind people use your software, you'll never know how hard or easy it is for them - hence you'll never get a blind person to be your contributor, since it's unusable to them.

Re: Free Software Foundation Priority Projects

#30
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The absence of minority representation is itself a factor that deters minority involvement.

I am afraid I don't see how lack of minority representation is a factor in open source software. How does one's race or gender affect whether or not they submit code? edit: Again, if you are downvoting me, please explain so I can understand. I'm not arguing for the sake of argument.

Humans are herd animals. They tend to look at what other people like them are doing, and do likewise.

It's unfortunate that people look at trivia like gender and ethnicity in such circumstances; but it's a fact of human behaviour. If potential contributors look at a project and don't see anyone who "looks like them", they're unlikely to contribute; so projects which want to maximize contributions are well advised to seek ways to "look inclusive".

(And this goes beyond open source software, of course. My university's computer science program has seen a significant uptick in applications from females after going out of their way to select photos of female students for recruiting material.)

In short, it's a matter of overcoming cognitive biases.

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