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Re: Ask HN: What inspires you to persevere through adversity?

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you need to like the life you'll live to get there. most olympians like training above all else, just like great entreprenours like working above all else.

I completely disagree that working above all else is the hallmark of great entrepreneurs.

Any suggestions?

Re: Ask HN: What inspires you to persevere through adversity?

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What else can you do? If you have a target or want to achieve something, the only option available is to try again. What helps me is knowing that I have people who care deeply for me,and who I care for just as much. I could quit, but, given all my blessings and the support I have, I wouldn't be able to face myself if I quit. I've had / survived some very difficult times (borderline starvation, seen my partner pass aw…

>"To paraphrase Churchill, "you can always count on humanity to do the right thing after it has tried everything else" The quote is actually: "Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing…after they have exhausted all other possibilities." But of course the same sentiment can be generalized for any group. Even though Churchill is credited there is no actual record or evidence of him ever saying this. And…

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Re: Ask HN: What inspires you to persevere through adversity?

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If you're on a "failing trajectory" but there's work in front of you, block out everything except for the work. If you can't handle that, then take a break and then get back at it. If it's something you really don't want to fail at, then there's probably something about it that you really love. Try to discover that again, without worrying about the untold future. If you focus in every moment, then you WILL make progr…

Your comment reminded me of Karma Yoga, the practice of taking action without attachment to the outcome.

Re: Ask HN: What inspires you to persevere through adversity?

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I realized a while ago that inspiration isn't very helpful for getting you through adversity. Inspiration gets you going, but grit and discipline ultimately help you push through. I'm going to go against the grain of most of what's being said in this thread and say that the best way to get through adversity is to discard a goal-based mentality entirely, in favor of a system-based mentality. Figure out the stuff you h…

Solid advice! Would you mind sharing some of the systems you've implemented?

Well the very first one was literally just 'make your bed as soon as you get up'. I read that idea somewhere else as a way to get a small win right away which I really needed because my startup wasn't doing so great - so I tried it and it worked. This had surprisingly large benefits. I didn't get up and start scrolling through my social media right away. I had a nice neat bed to get into at the end of the day. I couldn't just pile mess on top of the bed and leave it like that.

So the next thing was 'drink a glass of water after you've made the bed'. I read somewhere that lethargy after waking up was to do with dehydration overnight, so I drank the glass of water. I don't know if it made me less lethargic or not, but it did make me wander out of my room and into the kitchen to get the glass, and made me feel like I'd started my day.

So then it was 'ten pushups'. Then after a little while it was 'another ten pushups before bed'. Then it was 'run 5k every 3rd day' then every 2nd, then 10k if it was a weekend day. At some point I'd also added in going to the gym, because I noticed I'd been jogging past one on my route, so now I just ran to the gym. Routines to build on routines. I never set myself a goal like 'lose 10kg' or 'Squat 100kg' but in the end I did. It was hard to get over not really wanting to run, but when I kind of internalized that it didn't matter whether I wanted to or not, I just got to doing stuff. And of course it's kind of hard to feel bad about going running after you've done it, so it made sense to just keep doing it.

For work stuff, the first thing I did was 'before going to bed, write on an index card every task you need to get done tomorrow'. So I did that. Small thing, big improvements - first thing was that now I had an index card on my desk first thing that I had to deal with, so I had to read it before opening up my PC and just surfing around. Next thing was because I had the card there on my desk, I glanced at it every now and then and asked myself 'well did I do any of that in the last hour?'. And finally when I wrote the next index card, I had a little list of the tiny wins I'd made that day. Plus the index cards stack up over time so there's this physical reminder on the corner of my desk that I've done all this stuff, and the next day is just a tiny part of that. Now as a bonus I'm mindful about my work. I didn't set out to 'have 8 productive hours a day', I just made the little index cards over and over. But I get a productive 8 hour day most days.

Well I had the index cards now, so I have a record of what I've been up to, so I might as well do summaries - and that's how I started journaling regularly. When the stack gets x high, review the stack, write down what your thoughts are, repeat.

Now I look at stuff in terms of the systems I'd have to adopt to do it, and figure out how I can fit them in. I'd love to learn the guitar and work on a bunch of personal projects, and by figuring out the daily stuff I have to do I can see whether it makes sense to do it now or some other time, because it kind of naturally squares with priorities.

I've lost some of those habits since I moved for grad school, but I'm working on reestablishing them in the same methodical way. I'm still working on making my systems a little more resilient to that kind of disruption. One thing I did add to my system though is 'Saturday is a personal day, always, no email, no phone, unless it's a hair-on-fire thing in which case Sunday is a personal day'.

YMMV but the point to evolve this stuff organically.

Re: Ask HN: What inspires you to persevere through adversity?

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I think you are asking about setbacks, not adversity. If so, having a list of examples showing that most achievements (science, engineering, sports, etc.) are the end node of a long list of failures. Those failures are just not just publicised that often.

Setbacks are normal. The only way to avoid sequences of them is not to try new, ambitious things

Re: Ask HN: What inspires you to persevere through adversity?

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Persevering can be good, but sometimes failing can also be good. For example, if you've been trying to push a product for a number of years and the market doesn't take it up, then at some point you need to give up, or otherwise you'll spend the rest of your life chasing an impossible dream.

Re: Ask HN: What inspires you to persevere through adversity?

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Admiring Donald Trump, that's depressing.

He doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs. He has a strong work ethic. He believes in himself and doesn't give up in the face of adversity or when presented with seemingly insurmountable odds. I might not like or agree with Trump on many things, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have any qualities deserving of admiration.

I know of someone else who also had admirable qualities. He was a decorated and brave soldier during the first world war. He didn't smoke or drink, was very loyal to his friends, dedicated his entire life to public service, became the leader of his country despite being low class and fatherless, revitalized his entire country and the spirit of his people, wrote a best selling book, and killed millions of people because the security of his country made it a necessary in his mind.

The fact that Hitler had some genuinely admirable qualities made him more dangerous and not less dangerous. Good people could point to the good things about him and excuse the obvious evil in his ideology.

Re: Ask HN: What inspires you to persevere through adversity?

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I realized a while ago that inspiration isn't very helpful for getting you through adversity. Inspiration gets you going, but grit and discipline ultimately help you push through. I'm going to go against the grain of most of what's being said in this thread and say that the best way to get through adversity is to discard a goal-based mentality entirely, in favor of a system-based mentality. Figure out the stuff you h…

I'll echo the same. I decided some time ago that I disliked some aspects of my personality, especially shyness and sadness. I made a choice to systematically practice the habits of someone who was outgoing and happy. Now I am, mostly. Sometimes I still need to remind myself that change is possible.
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