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Diaspora breaks $100k and all of Kickstarter's records

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Re: Diaspora breaks $100k and all of Kickstarter's records

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Post by roc »

milod wrote: post #36
bcardarella wrote: post #7

This is going to be the most overhyped and underwhelming web project ever. This entire group looks like they have vaporware written all over them.

Is anyone else mildly depressed by the inequality between money raised and reality here? It's great that these guys are raising money, I'm all for it. They should take what they can get. But, what about all the brilliant open source projects out there, that people are actually enjoying and using today, not sponsored by large organizations that accept donations from the community. I'm willing to bet that _none_ of the…

Strikes me as not too far off the inequality between "good products" and "successful products" in general. Books, movies, commodities, software -- why should fund-raising be any different?

It's a shame, but I'm pretty numb to the phenomenon at this point.

Re: Diaspora breaks $100k and all of Kickstarter's records

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Post by orblivion »

jacquesm wrote: post #13

If they keep this up they'll cross a million bucks in the next 18 days. I'd start to feel a little uncomfortable if I were them by now, $10K is fine, but a million is a serious responsibility, even if it was gathered as small change. The surprising thing to me is how many people pledge fairly large amounts.

I think that once the NYT article falls out of view, it'll slow down considerably.

Re: Diaspora breaks $100k and all of Kickstarter's records

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Post by nirai »

jacquesm wrote: post #55
nirai wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shutting it down? are you for real?

Yes, absolutely. They initially asked for $10K. They now have 10 times as much. To pause the contribution round now and to show they can deliver would help them in avoiding the enormous risk of as someone else here already mentioned of becoming 'the next cuil'. Hype is a double-edged sword, it's great when you have it but you only get one shot at delivering and in an overhyped situation that is much harder than in on…

By your logic, a person winning the lottery should cap at 100K and say no thanks, I rather not piss of my friends family and colleges.

Most likely the public interest in this project will die out within 1-3 months. Hopefully they will not ruin their future lives endlessly trying to reproduce this incredibly lucky strike.

But while their at it, they should get as MUCH as they possibly can and totally and shamelessly go for it, hacking, hiring other people to work with them, getting drunk in parties at the other side of the globe, whatever...

Giving that money back saying they are afraid to disappoint some anonymous crowd would be totally nuts.

Re: Diaspora breaks $100k and all of Kickstarter's records

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Post by ashnyc »

I am happy they are getting this much money, but what is more interesting is to find out who is behind these guys. Who had the connection to the NYtimes, why did the story get picked up. They went from 0 to 3,000 followers in 1 day on twitter. http://twitter.com/joindiaspora I have done some analysis kickstarter fundraisers, and why some fundraisers go viral and others don't. here is a quick example, same subject but only one was able to raise money http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/search?term=obama

Re: Diaspora breaks $100k and all of Kickstarter's records

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Post by neilk »

icey wrote: post #73
someone_here wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making a comment, deleting it, and then replying to a comment that agreed with it stating that what they are agreeing with you upon is wrong is an interesting way of creating an argument.

And now everyone will know my secret shame of not being able to make up my mind. I still don't think it's great for Kickstarter, but I don't think it's as big an issue as I initially did. I was hoping nobody had seen my comment, but they did; and I wanted to explain the reason I deleted my comment.

I don't think it's a shame at all. You should take pride that you're trying to construct well-reasoned arguments, and in the course of that, sometimes you change your mind. Only cranks and trolls never have that experience.

Re: Diaspora breaks $100k and all of Kickstarter's records

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Post by orblivion »

jacquesm wrote: post #17
TallGuyShort wrote: post #15

Related to the whole Facebook fiasco, I just found this. I wonder how credible it is - that information is hard to verify. Basically, Zuckerburg allegedly IM'd his friend, and called early Facebook adopters "dumb f ks" for trusting him with their information. http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims...

If it's true one more reason to be very wary what you put in writng, even if it is just an IM message.

Yeah what a dumb fk

Re: Diaspora breaks $100k and all of Kickstarter's records

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Post by OliverSmith »

edw519 wrote: post #28
thaumaturgy wrote: post #12

Rats -- someone here said, "I'd be worried if I was kickstarter at this point...", and as I went to reply to that, they deleted their comment. But it's spot-on. Short term, this is going to bring a lot of publicity and attention towards kickstarter, and that will also benefit the projects on there. If you'd like to launch something via kickstarter, now is the time to do it . Because, odds are, what these guys roll ou…

I would guess that potential donors will be far more critical of future kickstarter projects Good. Those of us who are serious, with actual working code and real customers, welcome the extra scrutiny. No one ever said that Darwinism was painless.

being critical of future kickstarter projects would be good, but being critical of kickstarter in general could be bad

Re: Diaspora breaks $100k and all of Kickstarter's records

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Post by jacquesm »

orblivion wrote: post #83
jacquesm wrote: post #13

If they keep this up they'll cross a million bucks in the next 18 days. I'd start to feel a little uncomfortable if I were them by now, $10K is fine, but a million is a serious responsibility, even if it was gathered as small change. The surprising thing to me is how many people pledge fairly large amounts.

I think that once the NYT article falls out of view, it'll slow down considerably.

Their current funding success will generate another round of publicity, that's already happening. Everybody loves to hate facebook so you can just about cue the next round of blog posts and press coverage.

edit: it looks like that was on the money:

http://news.google.com/news/search?q=diaspora+facebook

Re: Diaspora breaks $100k and all of Kickstarter's records

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Post by canadaduane »

nirai wrote: post #53
andreyf wrote: post #20

This seems like a great opportunity for Google to "donate" some senior talent to the project, blow this up into a fully functioning platform (optionally backed up on Google's servers), and one-punch KO Facebook.

Why would Google "donate" senior talent to a project which at this point is basically just some videos and badly designed logos for download? Comments here are as insane as the amount of money these guys collected.

Success is an outlier outcome achieved by people who are initially indistinguishable from the insane.
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