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Re: Container Tabs

#101

Post by lkbm »

kayoone wrote: post #49
lucideer wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be remembering wrong, but I'm pretty sure Chrome started with per-window private browsing before eventually upgrading to per-tab. So Firefox seems to be just jumping ahead of that initial limitation from the start here.

how does per tab incognito work in chrome ? I can only find per window (which i assumed was the only way to do it)

It's not even per-window. If you open an Incognito window and log into a website, any other Incognito windows will share that same cookie jar and thus also be logged in to said website. I would love a way to keep them distinct, but simply opening a new window won't do it--you have to close all Incognito windows/tabs to clear its temporary cookie jar.

Re: Container Tabs

#102

Post by lucideer »

kayoone wrote: post #49
lucideer wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be remembering wrong, but I'm pretty sure Chrome started with per-window private browsing before eventually upgrading to per-tab. So Firefox seems to be just jumping ahead of that initial limitation from the start here.

how does per tab incognito work in chrome ? I can only find per window (which i assumed was the only way to do it)

Aha, you're right (I don't use Chrome, so I was just assuming the GP was more up-to-date than me on its current features).

I recall Opera 12 had per-tab incognito - I'm not sure, do any current browsers have it?

Re: Container Tabs

#103

Post by x1798DE »

SonicSoul wrote: post #88
x1798DE wrote: post #80

Right now, what I'm doing is that all my standard browsing happens on Firefox, with uMatrix blocking JS and just generally locked down. For anything where I want to log in or have a persistent identity (stackoverflow, gmail, etc), I set up separate Chrome profiles and manually open each site in the appropriate profile. Honestly, this whole thing is a bit of a pain - my ideal solution would be one where I can set up "…

hmm so you can log into multiple profiles at once in chrome and have them run under separate session spaces? i found that i can have on session space in regular chrome and one more in incognito, but all tabs in incognito seem to share that same session. i.e. opening a new tab automatically shares the same session as the other tabs in x domain. Maybe there is a way to control this behavior?

There is a button in the top right for profile switching. For me, it has always popped up a new window in a different profile, not closed the existing window.

Re: Container Tabs

#104

Post by vosper »

nikcub wrote: post #94

This is a neat idea but it doesn't implement the main reason I use separate profiles in Chromium - different security contexts based on how much you trust a site. Example: my main general browsing profile has flash, PDFs and all plugins disabled, absolutely all handlers switched off, all hardware access off, WebGL switched off, no account logins and uBlock Origin set to aggressively block most third-party requests. M…

I'm genuinely not trolling here: what are you worried could happen if you didn't do all of this stuff with the extensions and settings in your various profiles? What does it mean to trust a website?

Re: Container Tabs

#105

Post by x1798DE »

wtbob wrote: post #96
x1798DE wrote: post #80

Right now, what I'm doing is that all my standard browsing happens on Firefox, with uMatrix blocking JS and just generally locked down. For anything where I want to log in or have a persistent identity (stackoverflow, gmail, etc), I set up separate Chrome profiles and manually open each site in the appropriate profile. Honestly, this whole thing is a bit of a pain - my ideal solution would be one where I can set up "…

> For anything where I want to log in or have a persistent identity (stackoverflow, gmail, etc), I set up separate Chrome profiles and manually open each site in the appropriate profile. FWIW, this is also doable in Firefox: try 'firefox --new-instance -ProfileManager'; you can also directly open up a new profile from the command line (and hence do the same from scripts, desktop entries, or whatever else your platfor…

Yeah, I know it can be done, I use Chrome because it's more convenient to click the profile icon and pop up the new profile in a new window. In my experience with Firefox profile switching it's always been a much more involved process than the two-click Chrome process.

Re: Container Tabs

#106

Post by nsgi »

nikcub wrote: post #94

This is a neat idea but it doesn't implement the main reason I use separate profiles in Chromium - different security contexts based on how much you trust a site. Example: my main general browsing profile has flash, PDFs and all plugins disabled, absolutely all handlers switched off, all hardware access off, WebGL switched off, no account logins and uBlock Origin set to aggressively block most third-party requests. M…

You can already disable flash, javascript and cookies by site. That covers pretty much everything from site logins to WebGL.

Re: Container Tabs

#107

Post by nsgi »

x1798DE wrote: post #71
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone else intimated, isn't that just disabling 3rd party cookies, which has been a browser feature for ages?

If it were me, I'd like entire essentially unconnected sub-profiles, restricted by sites - different caches, potentially different extensions, etc. Even with third-party cookies disabled, you end up with little tricks to authenticate and track people across domains.

You mean like Chrome Profiles?

Re: Container Tabs

#108

Post by cornstalks »

chei0iaV wrote: post #73
cornstalks wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, because when you disable 3rd party cookies, then www.evilcorp.org can't even set its cookie on www.a.org.

So, mission accomplished? I disabled 3rd party cookies ever since the option appeared in Firefox, and never had any issues.

I disable 3rd party cookies too, but I've had several websites that have failed to work properly because of it. So now I've had to whitelist certain 3rd party cookies (e.g. accounts.google.com, payments.google.com, etc.). But since these domains are whitelisted, they can set their cookies from any website I visit. With the idea rlpb proposed, each website (and its permitted 3rd party cookies) would at least be in its own container.

Re: Container Tabs

#109

Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

rlpb wrote: post #39

I would like to be able to configure my browser to open every URL in a domain-specific "container", unless I say otherwise. Say site www.a.org includes an image from www.evilcorp.org, and www.evilcorp.org sets a cookie. When I then go to www.b.org and it includes an image from www.evilcorp.org, I don't expect the cookie to be sent back. In other words, the cookie should be tied to www.a.org, even though it actually c…

You'd probably like Self-Destructing Cookies[1]. It's an addon that deletes all cookies set by a page after you close the tab by default, though you can change it per-page to delete only on closing the browser or never. It doesn't prevent the cookies from being set, but it does effectively prevent tracking if you close tabs frequently.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/self-destruct...

Re: Container Tabs

#110

Post by StevePerkins »

icebraining wrote: post #84
JohnBooty wrote: post #22

I am a Mozilla supporter and FF is my "daily driver" browser. Very interested in this feature. Chrome has had it for a years, and it's a killer feature for many developers. It's very very useful to have multiple browser windows open, each logged into the same site as a different user. A lot of people do this by opening multiple browsers (FF, Chrome, Edge, Safari, etc) but that has its limits and it just adds another…

Chrome has had it for a years, and it's a killer feature for many developers. It's very very useful to have multiple browser windows open, each logged into the same site as a different user. A lot of people do this by opening multiple browsers (FF, Chrome, Edge, Safari, etc) but that has its limits and it just adds another variable my poor brain would prefer not to handle. Firefox has had this since, well, forever; t…

Firefox profiles used to be more prominent/accessible. Then about 5 or so years back, Mozilla decided to dumb down the UI to better imitate Chrome. Now I think you have to actually launch Firefox from the command-line with special arguments to use profiles (or else install a third-party plugin to manage them).
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