Dear Adobe - please stop pretending to be a tools developer because you really suck at it.
Sucky or not, I guess one could argue that Photoshop is a somewhat successful tool, I'd say they are not pretending.
Adobe attacks Apple - "You're undermining the next chapter of the web"
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Re: Adobe attacks Apple - "You're undermining the next chapter of the web"
#22Apple's engineering decisions have produced a platform that works pretty well and is enjoyable to develop for. They've sold a lot of handsets as a result. If it weren't for these decisions, then the sales wouldn't have happened and Adobe wouldn't be trying to strongarm their way onto the platform. In short, decisions such as not supporting Flash are in fact part of the OS's appeal and this entire debate is bizarre. F…
"Furthermore, Adobe's entire argument that developers and consumers should shun Apple's lock-in for Adobe's lock-in is absolutely absurd!" I don't have a problem with blocking the Flash plug-in. What I have a problem with is blocking native iPhone apps that were developed in Flash (even if they pass the review process). But, I totally agree with the "write once, develop anywhere" danger. IMO, this is the real reason…
Re: Adobe attacks Apple - "You're undermining the next chapter of the web"
#23"We publish the specifications for Flash — meaning anyone can make their own Flash player. Yet, Adobe Flash technology remains the market leader because of the constant creativity and technical innovation of our employees." Read: our player remains the only viable one because we keep moving the goalposts on everyone else.
Re: Adobe attacks Apple - "You're undermining the next chapter of the web"
#24So Apple is undermining the advancement of the web by advocating the use of HTML5 over Flash? And how is choosing to not support Flash on their platform undermining the web?
Adobe's rebuttal to Apple on all of this sounds like the movie industry: biding for relevancy when their middle-man is becoming obsolete.
Re: Adobe attacks Apple - "You're undermining the next chapter of the web"
#25Is it just me or does that perfectly explain Apple's business philosophy regarding iPhone OS as well? The mobile market is open. Apple doesn't have a monopoly or a majority of the market. There are plenty of other phones and carriers to choose from. The bottom line is Apple is trying to make the best product with the best technology and faster innovation than anyone else – and they are succeeding. Adobe is just-now-almost-ready-to-release-a-beta of a mobile optimized flash player. The iPhone has been out and innovating for 3 years. Adobe is not following it's own philosophy very well.
App store approval, no flash player, 3.3.1, all the decisions Apple have made that have got people angry are all explained by them trying to make the best mobile experience they can. Is it the best ever? Is it the best for you? Is it the only way? If you answer 'no' to any of these you have two options: buy something else or make something better.
Having flash on the iPhone will not make it a better platform (from Apple's point of view, and mine). Did you see the flash content running on the Nexus One the other day? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y7XJI4NN7k) It looks great! If it allows reasonable battery life I want one. But at the same time I want iPhone apps. I don't want the progress of the iPhone and iPad to get stalled trying to get flash to work. Apple can keep innovating in it's way and Adobe can work with Google and HP and whoever else to innovate in another way. They can both coexist.
I think a lot of the issue is Adobe (and by extension flash developers) feel like they are entitled to develop for every platform. Apple has so much mindshare (despite is relatively small market share) that it's the new toy for developers to play with. Flash devs understandably want a piece of it. They are used to being able to write once run everywhere. Adobe is used to being able to tout their ability to allow flash devs to write once run anywhere. Apple's just finally the first company in the position to say no and be able to back it up.
note: I make a living doing flash and web development (5+ years)
Re: Adobe attacks Apple - "You're undermining the next chapter of the web"
#26I don't really follow what they're trying to say here. The reason I (we?) don't want flash in the iPhone/etc web browser is because it performs poorly, eats battery and is unstable.
Re: Adobe attacks Apple - "You're undermining the next chapter of the web"
#27Dear Adobe - please stop pretending to be a tools developer because you really suck at it.
Re: Adobe attacks Apple - "You're undermining the next chapter of the web"
#28I don't really follow what they're trying to say here. The reason I (we?) don't want flash in the iPhone/etc web browser is because it performs poorly, eats battery and is unstable.
Then don't install it. Adobe's entire point is that you should have a choice. Do you have that choice right now?
Apple makes consumer electronics devices, you can't install new codecs on your DVD player and you can't install new VM's on your iPhone.
I prefer it this way.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sucky or not, I guess one could argue that Photoshop is a somewhat successful tool, I'd say they are not pretending.
Maybe he meant "developer tool developer".