The money makes things interesting even though they've made nothing yet. Imagine how things change from a momentum standpoint if they work on the 10 or 15k they planned to this summer and use the rest of the money to get people like Chris Messina and Caterina Fake working on the project
OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’
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Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’
#12Honestly, I am dumbfounded at all the money and publicity that is getting thrown at Diaspora when they haven't really accomplished anything yet. I don't think OneSocialWeb will succeed, either. What will likely happen is Facebook will adjust their course or a slightly different Facebook clone will come out with sensible customer-focused privacy policies (like Mint or Wesabe had) and ways to get your data out if you w…
Absolutely. I'm actually kind of surprised at how relatively inept Google is in the social networking field. They have Orkut, but it's pretty much a flop in the US. I mention it in another comment, but they have pretty much the perfect platform in Wave for building a serious distributed social network, but instead bill it as being a glorified email replacement. And Buzz? Is it even worth talking about?
Me too, but I'm starting to wonder if they're holding off because they don't want to be the subject of antitrust complaints.
Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’
#13Honestly, I am dumbfounded at all the money and publicity that is getting thrown at Diaspora when they haven't really accomplished anything yet. I don't think OneSocialWeb will succeed, either. What will likely happen is Facebook will adjust their course or a slightly different Facebook clone will come out with sensible customer-focused privacy policies (like Mint or Wesabe had) and ways to get your data out if you w…
Well, they've proved they understand the marketing part of it :)
Edit: that wasn't meant as snark. Marketing and mindshare are important in launching a new enterprise, especially one that sets out to bust an existing paradigm. The Diaspora team have done an excellent job in presenting their project, and taught me a valuable lesson. In the process, they've also created useful publicity for Kickstarter as a launchpad.
Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Absolutely. I'm actually kind of surprised at how relatively inept Google is in the social networking field. They have Orkut, but it's pretty much a flop in the US. I mention it in another comment, but they have pretty much the perfect platform in Wave for building a serious distributed social network, but instead bill it as being a glorified email replacement. And Buzz? Is it even worth talking about?
Me too, but I'm starting to wonder if they're holding off because they don't want to be the subject of antitrust complaints.
Might as well give all those high paid lawyers something to do.
Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’
#15OneSocialWeb, Diaspora et all are solving the wrong problem but are getting attention because of the general grumblings about Facebook. The issue causing the most Facebook user dissent is privacy. Open protocols do little to address this; having your whole social graph (think embarrassing pics) sitting on any server out of your control, whoever the owner, is the problem.
What is needed is a system that guarantees privacy by storing your social graph is such a way that it cannot be data-mined, sold, leaked, or linked by other websites. One way to do this is to have all data on the server be encrypted where the key only resides on the client side.
OneSocialWeb does nothing to solve the privacy problem.
Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’
#16Honestly, I am dumbfounded at all the money and publicity that is getting thrown at Diaspora when they haven't really accomplished anything yet. I don't think OneSocialWeb will succeed, either. What will likely happen is Facebook will adjust their course or a slightly different Facebook clone will come out with sensible customer-focused privacy policies (like Mint or Wesabe had) and ways to get your data out if you w…
The fact that Diaspora have gotten all that attention actually suggests that they have better odds to succeed - the biggest obstacles to a Facebook replacement aren't technical, after all, but social. They're starting by giving themselves a human face, just like MySpace did.
In my experience I have not seen a correlation between meda hype and success.
Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’
#17OneSocialWeb, Diaspora et all are solving the wrong problem but are getting attention because of the general grumblings about Facebook. The issue causing the most Facebook user dissent is privacy. Open protocols do little to address this; having your whole social graph (think embarrassing pics) sitting on any server out of your control, whoever the owner, is the problem. What is needed is a system that guarantees pri…
I'm with you on the "sold, leaked, and linked" bit, but what's the problem with data-mining?
Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’
#18Honestly, I am dumbfounded at all the money and publicity that is getting thrown at Diaspora when they haven't really accomplished anything yet. I don't think OneSocialWeb will succeed, either. What will likely happen is Facebook will adjust their course or a slightly different Facebook clone will come out with sensible customer-focused privacy policies (like Mint or Wesabe had) and ways to get your data out if you w…
Absolutely. I'm actually kind of surprised at how relatively inept Google is in the social networking field. They have Orkut, but it's pretty much a flop in the US. I mention it in another comment, but they have pretty much the perfect platform in Wave for building a serious distributed social network, but instead bill it as being a glorified email replacement. And Buzz? Is it even worth talking about?
Mix wave, buzz and blogger, with a HUGE touch of visuals and they may have a winner.
Google sucks at visuals, twitter looks fresh and trendy, buzz looks like shit.
They have the technology and the money, what they need is Apple-like designers.
Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’
#19Committee. I don't have any grounds for this, but I get the feeling that this is a very typically European project. The website and the fact that it's backed by Vodafone set off my bells. These kinds of projects by states or big corporations usually never launch, but are instead drowning in bureaucracy.
I might be wrong, but this fact alone makes me think Diaspora are doing the right thing in finding their own path.
It doesn't matter a lot to me though, I'm certain that we will build an open social network soon, whether OneSocialWeb, Diaspora or something else.
Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’
#20OneSocialWeb is ahead, but their solution is geek-oriented, complex, and ugly. Any solution that's not mom-oriented, simple, and pretty just won't catch on.