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Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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Amit joining Uber after a year's break coincides with the common "1 year no-solicitation" clause in employment contracts. I wonder if we are about to see some top people in Google get poached. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Hope so. I guess last exodus was in 2012 when top people like Marissa Mayer and her reports got poached.

> Marissa Mayer and her reports got poached

Looks like Google dodged a bullet there.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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post #7

Amit joining Uber after a year's break coincides with the common "1 year no-solicitation" clause in employment contracts. I wonder if we are about to see some top people in Google get poached. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Hope so. I guess last exodus was in 2012 when top people like Marissa Mayer and her reports got poached.

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Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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I'm really confused on what to think about Uber. My personal thinking/logic is really bearish on them, similar to the post on the front page yesterday [1]. However, I keep seeing extremely smart/accomplished people joining it which makes me second guess my intuition. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13437414

And there were times when extremely smart & accomplished people were joining Facebook

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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I'm really confused on what to think about Uber. My personal thinking/logic is really bearish on them, similar to the post on the front page yesterday [1]. However, I keep seeing extremely smart/accomplished people joining it which makes me second guess my intuition. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13437414

Uber has done nearly everything right. I think its main vulnerability is that its laborers are a fickle bunch and Uber hasn't done enough to inspire any loyalty. All Uber drivers I talk to alternate between Uber and Lyft and exploit any promotions or incentives either firm offers.

Uber has the opportunity to revolutionize not just logistics but also on-demand employment, but has lagged in the latter, leaving the door wide open for Lyft and other services that carve out a big niche of Uber's market.

I think Uber should immediately offer the following services to its drivers:

- Tax planning, withholding even if it's 1099 income or if the driver has other sources of income.

- Matching IRA contributions with one year vesting.

- healthcare subsidy

- continuing education, or some way to level up in life by driving with Uber.

- Some incentive for being a loyal, exceptional driver.

- Car financing/leasing/sharing and insurance packages tailored at would-be Uber drivers who don't own a vehicle.

I know that more and more of these sorts of ideas are being tried by both Uber and Lyft, but investors need to realize that the workforce is being trained to be opportunistic and disloyal.

Many of the drivers I've interviewed (during my ride) despise Uber the corporation or boast about their fair weather support. Many reflect back on how Uber used to be better for drivers, etc.

Uber's main battles have been fought with regulators and with Lyft, but now the best strategy is figuring out how to become the Uber of on-demand employment.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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post #9

I'm really confused on what to think about Uber. My personal thinking/logic is really bearish on them, similar to the post on the front page yesterday [1]. However, I keep seeing extremely smart/accomplished people joining it which makes me second guess my intuition. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13437414

Big $$ talk loud

If Singhal is motivated by money at this point then he's a straight up fool. I'm going to give this all the due regard of a Mayer going to Yahoo.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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I'm really confused on what to think about Uber. My personal thinking/logic is really bearish on them, similar to the post on the front page yesterday [1]. However, I keep seeing extremely smart/accomplished people joining it which makes me second guess my intuition. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13437414

And there were times when extremely smart & accomplished people were joining Facebook

What are you saying about FB?

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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There's a number of things that have happened in the organic search area of Google that seem to suggest a declining interest in quality organic results. There's Matt Cutts' long leave of absence, his departure, and the announcement that he's not really being replaced. A much lower volume of communication from Google on initiatives in the space (they used to talk endlessly about Panda, Penguin, etc). Amit's original r…

> There's a number of things that have happened in the organic search area of Google that seem to suggest a declining interest in quality organic results.

I think you may be falling for the SV cult of personality fallacy. There are still literally thousands of individuals you've never heard of working on organic search quality at Google who care very much about quality organic results. :)

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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post #12
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hope so. I guess last exodus was in 2012 when top people like Marissa Mayer and her reports got poached.

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Technically, the GP said Google's top talent in the context of a possible 2017 exodus.

That has nothing to do with Marissa Mayer.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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post #2

There's a number of things that have happened in the organic search area of Google that seem to suggest a declining interest in quality organic results. There's Matt Cutts' long leave of absence, his departure, and the announcement that he's not really being replaced. A much lower volume of communication from Google on initiatives in the space (they used to talk endlessly about Panda, Penguin, etc). Amit's original r…

If I had a nickel for every time I heard "market share war is over, X won" and then that marked X's high water point in the industry, I mean I'd be doing ok.

Guess this is the point where we short Alphabet?

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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I'm really confused on what to think about Uber. My personal thinking/logic is really bearish on them, similar to the post on the front page yesterday [1]. However, I keep seeing extremely smart/accomplished people joining it which makes me second guess my intuition. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13437414

Uber has done nearly everything right. I think its main vulnerability is that its laborers are a fickle bunch and Uber hasn't done enough to inspire any loyalty. All Uber drivers I talk to alternate between Uber and Lyft and exploit any promotions or incentives either firm offers. Uber has the opportunity to revolutionize not just logistics but also on-demand employment, but has lagged in the latter, leaving the door…

They are really worried about their contractors being classified as employees. That would be an existential threat.
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