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OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’

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Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’

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Honestly, I am dumbfounded at all the money and publicity that is getting thrown at Diaspora when they haven't really accomplished anything yet.

I don't think OneSocialWeb will succeed, either. What will likely happen is Facebook will adjust their course or a slightly different Facebook clone will come out with sensible customer-focused privacy policies (like Mint or Wesabe had) and ways to get your data out if you want to leave.

Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’

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I haven't read too much on the technical side of things about this yet, but TechCrunch's quick rundown sounds a lot like what I was arguing Wave had the potential to become when it launched a year ago.

If you stepped back from Wave and stopped looking at it as fancified email and instead as an extensible platform for arbitrary data, it seemed blindingly obvious to me that the next step would be to build it out into a full fledged social networking service. The fact that both projects are built on top of XMPP definitely strikes me as interesting, as well.

I've always been a little dumbfounded that the part of Wave everybody talked about was the collaborative text editing type stuff in the I/O demo, when if you read any deeper, it should have been clear that that stuff was just a UX tech demo and that the important part was the underlying technology. OneSocialWeb sounds a lot like somebody is building a similar technology specifically in the direction I thought Wave would go.

Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’

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post #2

Honestly, I am dumbfounded at all the money and publicity that is getting thrown at Diaspora when they haven't really accomplished anything yet. I don't think OneSocialWeb will succeed, either. What will likely happen is Facebook will adjust their course or a slightly different Facebook clone will come out with sensible customer-focused privacy policies (like Mint or Wesabe had) and ways to get your data out if you w…

Absolutely. I'm actually kind of surprised at how relatively inept Google is in the social networking field. They have Orkut, but it's pretty much a flop in the US. I mention it in another comment, but they have pretty much the perfect platform in Wave for building a serious distributed social network, but instead bill it as being a glorified email replacement. And Buzz? Is it even worth talking about?

Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’

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What I said in comments on the other story (http://news.ycombinator.org/item?id=1344138):

"When I last thought about it, I became convinced that we don't need an single implementation, we need standards for multiple implementations to interact. Stuff like RSS, OpenId, OAuth, etc. It's a lot less glamorous to work to these, and to try to push them forward, but it's a lot more useful."

Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’

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When that spreadsheet of Facebook alternatives was posted the other day, this one ticked the most boxes. Taking a look at their site though, I was greeted by talk of protocols and invited to 'get code'. I know its just early days, but this isn't how you get people using your social network. I want to jump right in. This... is not what I want.

Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’

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post #6

When that spreadsheet of Facebook alternatives was posted the other day, this one ticked the most boxes. Taking a look at their site though, I was greeted by talk of protocols and invited to 'get code'. I know its just early days, but this isn't how you get people using your social network. I want to jump right in. This... is not what I want.

Yeah, it would be nice if they had an open server that allowed you to sign up and check it out. There's nothing stopping anybody from setting one up though.

Re: OneSocialWeb: We’re Ahead Of Diaspora In The Creation Of An ‘Open Facebook’

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post #2

Honestly, I am dumbfounded at all the money and publicity that is getting thrown at Diaspora when they haven't really accomplished anything yet. I don't think OneSocialWeb will succeed, either. What will likely happen is Facebook will adjust their course or a slightly different Facebook clone will come out with sensible customer-focused privacy policies (like Mint or Wesabe had) and ways to get your data out if you w…

The fact that Diaspora have gotten all that attention actually suggests that they have better odds to succeed - the biggest obstacles to a Facebook replacement aren't technical, after all, but social. They're starting by giving themselves a human face, just like MySpace did.
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