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Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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I really would like to see Google penalize websites that force you to login after google showed these websites in the results. 1. Take Linkedin for example: you search for a person on google; google shows a linkedin result; you go to linkedin but you are greeted with giant popup asking you to login to view info. Ridiculous. 2. Same with Quora: they come in results with basic info, but when you go to their page, they…

I frequently have to delete these kinds of HTML nodes off the page just to see if it actually has something I want. I debated rolling my own extension for the common sites where I run into this, but ended up just throwing up my hands at the absurdity of the situation.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Unfortunately the info typically is on that page, just not complete - and you want more and Google knows it's the way to that information, so results are largely correct, no? If those sites show something else to you than they show to Google Bot, that's against Google's policy and they should be penalized, so I'm assuming they aren't. If energy required to get to the information you need through that path is too much…

Let's take a look at Quora's case. Please do the following: 1. Open your mobile browser. 2. Ask a question on Google and add "quora" so you get some results. 3. Open Quora's result link 4. See that result for a brief second and 5. Be forwarded to registration page, which doesn't have any close or cancel out buttons. 6. Try tapping back and you are back to Google results 7. Curse at Quora and never tap on their result…

How about disabling JavaScript on Quora? Should block step 5, right?

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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I really would like to see Google penalize websites that force you to login after google showed these websites in the results. 1. Take Linkedin for example: you search for a person on google; google shows a linkedin result; you go to linkedin but you are greeted with giant popup asking you to login to view info. Ridiculous. 2. Same with Quora: they come in results with basic info, but when you go to their page, they…

I frequently have to delete these kinds of HTML nodes off the page just to see if it actually has something I want. I debated rolling my own extension for the common sites where I run into this, but ended up just throwing up my hands at the absurdity of the situation.

It might be worth maintaining a cosmetic blocking list for uBlock that you could share and that others could contribute to.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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post #296

I really would like to see Google penalize websites that force you to login after google showed these websites in the results. 1. Take Linkedin for example: you search for a person on google; google shows a linkedin result; you go to linkedin but you are greeted with giant popup asking you to login to view info. Ridiculous. 2. Same with Quora: they come in results with basic info, but when you go to their page, they…

Pinterest is even worse - in Google Images, images are listed but once you enter the site, you're blocked from accessing whatever you have been looking for.

What's even worse about Pinterest is that almost all the images are derived from an outside source, so you're following this insane route to get at the original content:

source image-> indexed by Pinterest -> Google index of Pinterest index -> Pinterest page -> source image.

I can't believe that Google is incapable of navigating around this, but Pinterest would probably block them from indexing if they did.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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While I applaud Google for doing this, it's also very scary that Google has that much power that they can basically make anyone on the web do anything by threatening ranking blackmail. Google is starting to use more grey area tactics to control things (such as disabling accounts for those who resold a pixel). Makes me start to actually worry about the power Google has.

This.

And the conflict of interest is possibly anti-trust level. (IANAL)

A company that gets the majority of their revenue from ads is penalizing sites in their near-monopoly search results for showing the "wrong" ads.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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I frequently have to delete these kinds of HTML nodes off the page just to see if it actually has something I want. I debated rolling my own extension for the common sites where I run into this, but ended up just throwing up my hands at the absurdity of the situation.

It might be worth maintaining a cosmetic blocking list for uBlock that you could share and that others could contribute to.

That's a great idea! Completely forgot uBlock had this feature:

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Element-picker

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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You're assuming they make money on ticket sales. Maybe all that money goes to the theater? If so, the ads are completely rational.

Movie theaters make no money on tickets---it's concessions where the money is. That's why it's $10 for a small bag of popcorn and a drink (which costs the theater pennies on the dollars).

They make little money on tickets the first week or two. After that the percentage changes.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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post #296

I really would like to see Google penalize websites that force you to login after google showed these websites in the results. 1. Take Linkedin for example: you search for a person on google; google shows a linkedin result; you go to linkedin but you are greeted with giant popup asking you to login to view info. Ridiculous. 2. Same with Quora: they come in results with basic info, but when you go to their page, they…

Pinterest is even worse - in Google Images, images are listed but once you enter the site, you're blocked from accessing whatever you have been looking for.

Ebay does the same trick… leaves images of old items up and then link is actually a listing of (very loosely) related items, but not the one that was original sought.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Use uBlock Origin people! In Firefox on Android. Don't see any pop-up ads! I can't believe how much pain people subjective themselves to needlessly!

I'd love to see uMatrix on FF Android. uBO has a habit of killing things needed for the content in my experience . The lack of a simple selective bypass makes it frustrating for the site that will not load correctly.

The advanced mode panel in uBO works on FF for Android, though it's not as painless as on desktop.

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> This is usually considered a big mistake in retail. Is it? Grocery stores keep essentials far away from each other so you have to walk past stuff you don't want in order to get to what you want. Imagine a store where they had milk at the checkout counter! That's the retail equivalent of amazon.com ;)

Milk? That's funny. Here in France, it's drinks and wine ;-) But most of the milk sold here is pasteurized, so not kept in fridge (only once opened).

Milk in the US is pasteurized as well, but to be shelf stable you need to use a different pasteurization processes called UHT (ultra high temp) and package it in special aseptic packaging. UHT milk is put in traditional containers and stored in the fridge as well.

You can buy self stable milk in the US but it's not very popular for some reason. Except for Yoo-hoo, that's a popular milk product that's usually sold in shelf stable "juice boxes"... and I think it tastes even better at room temperature.

When milk alternatives like soy milk, almound milk, coconut milk, etc., first came to market they were almost always sold shelf stable. I can only assume that's because refrigeration space in supermarkets is sparse and expensive (learned that from Shark Tank) and these were niche products at the time. Now that they are mainstream you can find them refrigerated right next to the dairy milk. I guess Americans prefer to buy milk that way.

Re: wine. Interestingly in the US, due to the fact liquor laws are regulated by the state, when you cross state lines your supermarket alcohol selection will vary drastically. Some states ban alcohol sales in supermarkets entirely. Some allow only beer and wine. Some allow only beer only. Some allow beer, wine, and liquor. I've never heard of a state that banned beer but allowed liquor but who knows, it's possible. It mind boggling just how many crazy (and different) regulations about silly stuff like this exists around alcohol in the US. Funny story, a friend of mine went to a supermarket outside of the state she lived in and was totally mystified she couldn't find Bacardi's. "I've never been to a grocery store that didn't have Bacardi's" She didn't know they weren't allowed to sell it there.

Personally, I'm in a "beer only" state and and wine coolers and malt liquor (colloquially known as "40s") are categorized as "beer."

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