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Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Most users hate these pop-ups and cheer this move from Google. But let me add a little context to why these ads are so prevalent and why some companies view this move as Google abusing their power. If you visit to any "guide" website like TripAdviser, Yelp, etc, these days on a mobile browser, you'll notice that the sites often barely let you do anything without downloading the native app. They all but refuse to let…

  The reason for this behavior is that Google is systematically destroying the SEO traffic of these sites
Another reason is that with apps, they have the opportunity to harvest the phone owners private data directly (contacts, messages, seeing what competing apps are installed, etc.)

Most people don't pay attention to the overbroad spectrum of access many apps demand.

Specific example: Samsung changed the Gallery app (default on my GS7 to display photos from within the Camera app) to demand access to my Calendar. If I hit Deny, it aborts. My Calendar? Really?

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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What's really stupid are sites from which you can buy things, but then pop up an ad for something else. Fandango, which sells movie tickets, does this. As you're trying to get to the "buy ticket" page, they shove movie trailers for other movies in your face. I mentioned a site earlier today which sold plumbing supplies.[1] They pop up a "gimme your email" box which 1) cannot be dismissed , and 2) isn't even theirs, i…

> This is usually considered a big mistake in retail. Is it? Grocery stores keep essentials far away from each other so you have to walk past stuff you don't want in order to get to what you want. Imagine a store where they had milk at the checkout counter! That's the retail equivalent of amazon.com ;)

I don't think that's really comparable. No one's going to arrive at a store and decide not to buy the milk that they came for because the walk to the back of the store is too much hassle.

More comparable would be like someone standing in front of the checkout and insisting you take a survey before you can pay. In that scenario I can very much imagine someone getting pissed off and leaving.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

#154

Most users hate these pop-ups and cheer this move from Google. But let me add a little context to why these ads are so prevalent and why some companies view this move as Google abusing their power. If you visit to any "guide" website like TripAdviser, Yelp, etc, these days on a mobile browser, you'll notice that the sites often barely let you do anything without downloading the native app. They all but refuse to let…

Wow didn't know this. Is this also why many e-commerce sites beg for your email every time you visit?

For many the reason is Facebook who canibalized the brands natural reach without paying.

Everyone panicked and good old email is trustworthy. FB holds the contacts in their paid garden that they once so hard fought for.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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post #47

What's really stupid are sites from which you can buy things, but then pop up an ad for something else. Fandango, which sells movie tickets, does this. As you're trying to get to the "buy ticket" page, they shove movie trailers for other movies in your face. I mentioned a site earlier today which sold plumbing supplies.[1] They pop up a "gimme your email" box which 1) cannot be dismissed , and 2) isn't even theirs, i…

You're assuming they make money on ticket sales. Maybe all that money goes to the theater? If so, the ads are completely rational.

Then it becomes rational for the user to buy tickets elsewhere.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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> This is usually considered a big mistake in retail. Is it? Grocery stores keep essentials far away from each other so you have to walk past stuff you don't want in order to get to what you want. Imagine a store where they had milk at the checkout counter! That's the retail equivalent of amazon.com ;)

Planet Money #555: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/07/23/334076398/episo... Their conclusion: the jury is out, but "never breaking the cold chain" is a good contender.

Thank you for this! For the couple of industry insiders they interviewed it seemed like they catered towards a 'helpful to customers' attitude despite what they implement. Could be saving face, could just be easier.

Idk being told to try making it more accessable by a consultant who's job it is to maximize profits and the grocer does "what it wants anyway" doesn't sound right on an industry scale.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is usually considered a big mistake in retail. Is it? Grocery stores keep essentials far away from each other so you have to walk past stuff you don't want in order to get to what you want. Imagine a store where they had milk at the checkout counter! That's the retail equivalent of amazon.com ;)

I don't think that's really comparable. No one's going to arrive at a store and decide not to buy the milk that they came for because the walk to the back of the store is too much hassle. More comparable would be like someone standing in front of the checkout and insisting you take a survey before you can pay. In that scenario I can very much imagine someone getting pissed off and leaving.

They just won't go to the grocery store in the first place. They will buy milk at the gas station instead, or at a drugstore, precisely because the supermarket is so much hassle.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Do ad blockers break AMP pages? If so that is a pretty crafty way of killing them. "Would you like to search and browse the mobile web through Google? Only if you disable your ad blocker." I'd be shocked if they don't try to force AMP on the desktop as well next if this works out for them.

Well an "ad blocker" is almost always just a list that some guy or repo online decides to block. So if someone decides AMP pages should be blocked, your ad blocker will start blocking them. It's actually one of the reasons I stopped using them. The idea of some person somewhere deciding what I see and don't see didn't quite jive with me. And it was impacting me by blocking things like Google shopping which I was tryi…

That's not a reason not to use an ad-blocker, it's a reason not to use a public blocklist. If you want more control, just make your own filter rules.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

#159

Why only "mobile websites"? I hate em just as much when I'm viewing on the desktop.

I can understand why the desktop gets a pass, but I really, really wish they would consider doing it for sites which pop up those damned "Give us your email!!" forms. Especially those sites which pop it up almost immediately when I've arrived at their site for the first time. I don't even know your site yet. Just followed this link from somewhere else. And you're immediately demanding my email for your pointless news…

It's like web-designers ignored all the lessons of the pop-up blockers in the 2000s. "Hey, it didn't work then, but maybe if we embed it in the page people will use it!"

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

#160

Use uBlock Origin people! In Firefox on Android. Don't see any pop-up ads! I can't believe how much pain people subjective themselves to needlessly!

These popups are one of the biggest reasons I started using ublock origin!
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