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Re: Future of Flash

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Despite all these high figures and percentages, I still typically find Flash annoying, bar video players. What now?

Is it that you find "Flash" annoying or just rich content in general?

Tough question actually. I've spent so much time browsing the net that it's hard to unravel these things...

Re: Future of Flash

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post #5

"19 out of the top 20 device manufacturers worldwide have committed to shipping Flash technology on their devices" It would be more wise to actually wait till you can deliver a decent Flash implementation on a mobile device before touting your mobile position. Because your mobile position right now is that you have been promising the world but not delivering jack.

Flash runs just as well on my nokia n900 as it does on desktop, So I don't think the problem is at adobes end. Of course, I don't even remember when was the last time I actually needed to use flash (on mobile or on desktop).

Re: Future of Flash

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Oh, sure. H.264 is just a codec, and is just an HTML tag, but somehow, that's exactly what I want. I can (very easily) make a H.264 or Ogg Theora video and wrap it inside tag and it is going to work, I don't even know how I would do that with your "complete solution for advanced video distribution". Except "put it on youtube", of course.

Re: Future of Flash

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"For existing Flash content developed with mouse input in mind, Flash Player will automatically convert the touch events into mouse events. This allows Flash content designed for the desktop, to work seamlessly on touch-based devices."

I can't wait to try http://www.dontclick.it/ on a touch based device!

Re: Future of Flash

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They might have open-sourced the code of Flash, but getting bugs fixed and critical enhancements implemented in the Flash player (or in Flex) is still a lengthy, opaque process that takes years. It took them 3 years to add a global exception handler and fix the scrollbars in Mac, for pete's sake!

As a Flex developer, that pisses me off to no end. I work in Flash all the time, and I use it because I have no choice, to do what I want to do, but I hate Flash because Adobe is so glacially slow at implementing small, obvious fixes to make my work easier.

Re: Future of Flash

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I am not adobe apologist, but in whole lets bash adobe movement, people tend to forget the innovative applications that have been delivered in last few years. E.g. ChatRoullette I dont think HTML5 would be able to do that at least for next 5 years. And creating a multi platform app would be a nightmare. But with Flash it was a small job for a teenage Russians.

And I believe that is real innovation and not the magical IPad (a big ipod touch).

Re: Future of Flash

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post #5

"19 out of the top 20 device manufacturers worldwide have committed to shipping Flash technology on their devices" It would be more wise to actually wait till you can deliver a decent Flash implementation on a mobile device before touting your mobile position. Because your mobile position right now is that you have been promising the world but not delivering jack.

"deliver a decent Flash implementation on a mobile device before touting your mobile position." I wish they'd do the same for desktop too. Flash doesn't really 'run' on my 64 bit ubuntu , it sputters and crawls and fucks up in a plethora of ways.

I don't have that problem at all. I was hesitant to move to 64 bit but the Flash player is screaming fast on my machine. I can easily playback 1680x1050 YouTube videos without a glitch. It's more than possible that your hardware configuration is the cause. Get in touch with Adobe and let them know your config, the problem might be fixable.

PS: I run Ubuntu as well of course.

Re: Future of Flash

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post #23

Oh, sure. H.264 is just a codec, and is just an HTML tag, but somehow, that's exactly what I want. I can (very easily) make a H.264 or Ogg Theora video and wrap it inside tag and it is going to work, I don't even know how I would do that with your "complete solution for advanced video distribution". Except "put it on youtube", of course.

I've never used the video tag. I'm sure there is more involved than adding tags to my page. I'll probably have to do some research to get it working the way I want. "How do I make the play and pause button the way my visual guy designed them" would the first question that would come to mind. I guess the same goes for a Flash based solution.

Re: Future of Flash

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post #25

They might have open-sourced the code of Flash, but getting bugs fixed and critical enhancements implemented in the Flash player (or in Flex) is still a lengthy, opaque process that takes years. It took them 3 years to add a global exception handler and fix the scrollbars in Mac, for pete's sake! As a Flex developer, that pisses me off to no end. I work in Flash all the time, and I use it because I have no choice, to…

Is that a Flash Player or a Flex framework thing?

Re: Future of Flash

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post #22
post #5

"19 out of the top 20 device manufacturers worldwide have committed to shipping Flash technology on their devices" It would be more wise to actually wait till you can deliver a decent Flash implementation on a mobile device before touting your mobile position. Because your mobile position right now is that you have been promising the world but not delivering jack.

Flash runs just as well on my nokia n900 as it does on desktop, So I don't think the problem is at adobes end. Of course, I don't even remember when was the last time I actually needed to use flash (on mobile or on desktop).

You don't watch YouTube videos? Not all of them plays on html5 player.
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