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Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

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Re: Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

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I work on personal projects, read HN, or do other things on my computer while I'm at home. I'm sitting at a desk and using my computer for 12+ hours a day. I rarely ever exercise, or even move my body much besides my fingers. This is really terrible news for people like me.

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Re: Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

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Moderate exercise 150mn weekly. Can be distributed into 3 to 5 weekly sessions. If you are male, you can also do intense instead of moderate exercise. For types of exercise, endurance exercise like running or cross country skiing have been found to extend most lifespan, followed by team sports and last strength training If all that sounds complicated, my advice is to find a job or a hobby that involves moderate exerc…

People who know that I commute at good weather by bike and at bad weather walking (2*70 minutes a day) say I am crazy. People who see my code (I am writing PL/SQL for my living) say that my solutions are crazy simple and efficient. They don't know that all my good ideas came after 45-60 minutes of walking and because of this I always have a pen and paper in my pocket.

I wish that worked for me, I don't solve much while on a bike, possibly because my attention goes to traffic. Walking works much better, I can zone out and think about stuff. Biking does make me feel good afterwards though so I would say the net effect on cognition is still positive.

Re: Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

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Do you even lift? It's really easy to start, and it's really easy to get caught up in the habit. It sounds implausible, but I became a much better programmer after I started lifting weights every day.

That's pretty cool, I guess exercise helps improve mood a lot. I should definitely give lifting every day a shot. I'm searching for a good set of weights on Amazon, but I'm a bit lost. Can you recommend anything (that's a good for a beginner)?

I just bought the cheapest set of metal plates I could find from Amazon when I started. They were pairs of 2.5, 5, 10 and 25 pound plates, and included a bar and two curl bars, and collars for keeping the plates on the bars. For a while in the Army, I literally just lifted cans of .50-cal ammo. When you start, just Google a few simple compound exercises that don't require equipment, and make sure you're getting at least twenty minutes of cardio a day, until you start to get into shape. Once you aren't dying from the run, and are able to lift every day -- because the first few weeks, you will be too sore between sessions to lift every day, and rest is super important to prevent injury -- then look for some kind of bench. Again, here, I just bought the cheapest thing I could find on Amazon that I could reconfigure for different exercises. Altogether, the weights were a couple hundred bucks, and the bench set was a couple hundred bucks. Definitely also search for weight sets on Craigslist. You'd be surprised at the number of people that buy the best gear and then realize they don't like to exercise.

Re: Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

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The ROI: Spending time with mindless exercise: 1/48 part of a year times 70 years is 1.46 years. If true that's around 8 more years in return for every 1.5 you put in. Nice ROI. :-)

It's not just the years you gain in your life expectancy, your quality of life is also much higher in the years you spend healthily instead of being sick.

Apart from that, even if you don't consider health issues, a good physical condition will give you more energy and having more energy makes life more fun.

Re: Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

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Alternatively, you can use a standing desk, or switch between a sitting and a standing desk. That way you have an additional litte exercise during the working hours.

I've read so many (anecdotal) stories about standing desks doing a number on knees and ankles that I think I'd rather go in a tanning bed than get one.

the pain on ankles is real if your floor tends to be hard. Using a soft mattress helps somewhat.

Re: Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

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The ROI: Spending time with mindless exercise: 1/48 part of a year times 70 years is 1.46 years. If true that's around 8 more years in return for every 1.5 you put in. Nice ROI. :-)

It's not just the years you gain in your life expectancy, your quality of life is also much higher in the years you spend healthily instead of being sick. Apart from that, even if you don't consider health issues, a good physical condition will give you more energy and having more energy makes life more fun.

plus more attractivity to other sex, which means more sex/better choice of quality partners... the list of positives is endless

Re: Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

#167

I work on personal projects, read HN, or do other things on my computer while I'm at home. I'm sitting at a desk and using my computer for 12+ hours a day. I rarely ever exercise, or even move my body much besides my fingers. This is really terrible news for people like me.

Similar story here for most of the last year. Previously I've had a long (walking) commute to work, enjoyed swimming, running and/or mountain biking. I tried HIIT briefly last year but couldn't find a way to reliably include it in my routine. Just started swimming a few weeks back and think I will maintain that longer term. People will tell you to do x/y/z thing, the truth is you need to find something which works for you and becomes a habit and you can fit into your schedule long term. That could be lifting, swimming, zumba classes, whatever.

Either that or decide you're OK with poor health and a shorter than necessary life! :)

Re: Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

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I plan to live to be as old as the mountains, this is why I rip apart mountains, manually.

Apparently people don't realize that this is an on-topic statement? I do mining as one profession, so I get this exercise amount and then some. Maybe I'm just making the sedentary people mad?

Re: Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

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What's the best exercise just to stay healthy? And what frequency? I would hate to exercise for years just to find out it actually harmed my health.

Pushups. They are the single best full body exercise, that can be done ANYWHERE, and rather quickly. When you've reached a sufficient rep, add a dip bar. Pull-ups should also be part of your routine as well. Every hour or so while working at the computer, I'll get down and knock out twenty pushups or so. You'll be surprised at how fast you build up muscle endurance, and your lower back pain will be gone.

> They are the single best full body exercise, that can be done ANYWHERE...

it's easy to do almost anywhere, but far from best full body workout if you can use gym equipment. Free weight squats and deadlifts are far better.

good form is required for these, but that is valid for any exercise. a friend of mine messed up one of his shoulder from just push ups.

Re: Too much sitting, too little exercise may accelerate biological aging

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Alternatively, you can use a standing desk, or switch between a sitting and a standing desk. That way you have an additional litte exercise during the working hours.

I've read so many (anecdotal) stories about standing desks doing a number on knees and ankles that I think I'd rather go in a tanning bed than get one.

Do these issues also occur when you switch between standing and sitting?

(I suspect that the real issue is neither sitting nor standing, but monotonicity.)

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