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Re: Welcoming Fabric to Google

#71
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that moment of panic when you think something Google acquired is something you use.

In the case of fabric/fabfile this wouldn't matter, as fabric/fabfile looks dead anyway. No Python 3 support, no road map, last Github activity 5 months ago.

The latest release was last month. Not that it would be concerning if it really was 5 months ago.

Re: Welcoming Fabric to Google

#72
post #56
post #55

I'm happy that Crashlytics will live on, as that was something I was concerned about in light of Twitter's recent poor performance. However, I'm really not looking forward to the eventual Firebase-ifying/Google-ifying of the UI/design. The Firebase/Google Console interfaces are terrible. Just awful. I cringe thinking about what could happen to the Crashlytics UI.

Firebase engineer here -- what don't you like about the Firebase Console? Any specific things that we could improve?

Your texts and instructions are byzantine. For example, what is the following supposed to say:

"By default, your Firebase Analytics data will enhance other Firebase features and Google products. You can control how your Firebase Analytics data is shared in your Firebase settings at any time. Link your AdMob app(s) to Firebase and we'll share your data from the free Firebase Analytics tool with AdMob to improve app monetization and user engagement. You understand that this linkage may also allow AdMob Data to be shared with Firebase for enhanced reporting purposes."

I guess it means something like "Link you Admob account to Firebase" but it sounds kind of scary.

Re: Welcoming Fabric to Google

#73

Knowing Google's reputation with abandoning developer tools and services, can anyone offer suggestions as to possible alternatives? Or counterpoints as to why I shouldn't fear this service degrading over the next year or two? We're currently using Fabric and Crashlytics for our iOS app where I work and this news has prompted us to research alternatives.

> We're currently using Fabric and Crashlytics for our iOS app where I work and this news has prompted us to research alternatives. I spent the last few months working on getting iOS Support going in Sentry (sentry.io). Would love to hear feedback. Not only do we provide a hosted solution but it's also 100% Open Source which should give you the confidence that it will continue working for you no matter what happens.

Bravo on Sentry - it's a terrific platform. I'm especially fond of the breadcrumbs, they're a great feature.

Re: Welcoming Fabric to Google

#74

Knowing Google's reputation with abandoning developer tools and services, can anyone offer suggestions as to possible alternatives? Or counterpoints as to why I shouldn't fear this service degrading over the next year or two? We're currently using Fabric and Crashlytics for our iOS app where I work and this news has prompted us to research alternatives.

> We're currently using Fabric and Crashlytics for our iOS app where I work and this news has prompted us to research alternatives. I spent the last few months working on getting iOS Support going in Sentry (sentry.io). Would love to hear feedback. Not only do we provide a hosted solution but it's also 100% Open Source which should give you the confidence that it will continue working for you no matter what happens.

Bravo on Sentry - it's a terrific platform. I'm especially fond of the breadcrumbs, they're a great feature.

Re: Welcoming Fabric to Google

#75
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that moment of panic when you think something Google acquired is something you use.

In the case of fabric/fabfile this wouldn't matter, as fabric/fabfile looks dead anyway. No Python 3 support, no road map, last Github activity 5 months ago.

There is a roadmap: http://www.fabfile.org/roadmap.html

One of the goals in the roadmap is to move part of Fabric's functionality into another library (Invoke), which does have recent activity and supports Python 3.

Re: Welcoming Fabric to Google

#76
Having experienced some rather concerning keychain issues with Digits a few months back and seeing the writing on the wall with Twitter and their stockholders calling for blood I dropped all of my Fabric dependencies in November.

For crash reporting the best alternative I found (superior to Crashlytics IMO) is Sentry[0]. It's been awesome so far and allows you to easily federate crash reporting over multiple platforms. I have no association with the company.

[0]: https://sentry.io/

Re: Welcoming Fabric to Google

#77

Knowing Google's reputation with abandoning developer tools and services, can anyone offer suggestions as to possible alternatives? Or counterpoints as to why I shouldn't fear this service degrading over the next year or two? We're currently using Fabric and Crashlytics for our iOS app where I work and this news has prompted us to research alternatives.

Having a popular developer tool that is already integrated with a lot of apps in both iOS and Android is valuable strategic asset for Google. Analytics and ads go hand in hand and as tracking cross-app behavior is hard, and having a library that is installed in many apps makes it easier.

I'm pretty sure that this was the strategic thinking when started to invest to app developer tools (Crashlytics, Fabric, Digits, MoPub). It's interesting to speculate why they are selling Fabric, is their business model focus moving away from mobile ads?

Re: Welcoming Fabric to Google

#78
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We're currently using Fabric and Crashlytics for our iOS app where I work and this news has prompted us to research alternatives. I spent the last few months working on getting iOS Support going in Sentry (sentry.io). Would love to hear feedback. Not only do we provide a hosted solution but it's also 100% Open Source which should give you the confidence that it will continue working for you no matter what happens.

Bravo on Sentry - it's a terrific platform. I'm especially fond of the breadcrumbs, they're a great feature.

Thanks so much. It's always great to hear when people enjoy what we're doing :)

Re: Welcoming Fabric to Google

#79
post #76

Having experienced some rather concerning keychain issues with Digits a few months back and seeing the writing on the wall with Twitter and their stockholders calling for blood I dropped all of my Fabric dependencies in November. For crash reporting the best alternative I found (superior to Crashlytics IMO) is Sentry[0]. It's been awesome so far and allows you to easily federate crash reporting over multiple platform…

Aside we're also building a bunch of open source tooling (our entire platform is open source) around mobile, so if you're looking to roll your own or bring something in-house, we'd love to hear your feedback.

https://github.com/getsentry

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