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Didn't GWB pardon Karl Rove for blowing the cover of a CIA agent? I feel like I'm not making that up.
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You have it backwards. I have this account because HN is not very open to political discourse unless you toe a very specific line. The Overton Window around here is very small.
I am talking about tone, not substance.
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President Obama inherited all of those "bad" things you mention. The real problem with all of those things is that they are politically impossible to roll back, unless the perceived cost exceeds the perceived benefit. Until your best friend ends up on a kill list, that isn't going to happen. Imagine the following scenario: President Obama ends NSA spying, kills the drone problem, gets rid of kill lists (and presumabl…
> President Obama inherited all of those "bad" things you mention. I agree Obama is doing what the American people want, but he did not inherit all of these programs. E.g. he substantially expanded the program for drone strikes: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/01/12/reflecting-o...
They're a nearly ideal weapon. There isn't a military on this planet that would not choose to employ them over almost any other tactic.
With apologies to William Burroughs. (To the whistleblowers, in hope that they stay alive.) Thanks for systemic corruption and disregard for the rule of law. Thanks for the transparent lies and carefully framed talking points. Thanks for the profitable arms sales to be used against us in next year's war. Thanks for manufactured consent. "You all saw him. He had a gun." Thanks for the American dream, placing profit fi…
I'm always torn on these things. Chelsea Manning did break the law. If she hadn't at least spent some time in jail, it could have potentially turned into a much larger political nightmare.
In the context of (1) the law (2) is unjust, and thus punishment is unjust.
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You should read the beginning of the thread. Or type 'collateral murder incident' into google. The beginning of the thread references https://collateralmurder.wikileaks.org/ which is a wiki leaks URL, rather than a wiki pedia URL, as you suggested when you said "you can just read the wikipedia page" . Googling "collateral murder incident" does give a number of results, which does include a Wikipedia page, but it's no…
I typed "collateral murder incident" into google and it returned the exact Wikipedia page that pvg told you it would return. Further, when I type "Collateral Murder" into the Wikipedia search, it brings me directly to the page about the airstrike that pvg has repeatedly referenced, anchored at the section about the video. Just what are you trying to pull here? which does include a Wikipedia page, but it's not one tha…
it returned the exact Wikipedia page that pvg told you it would return
Perhaps you could post the URL of that Wikipedia page?
Is it so terribly hard to copy and paste the URL of the page which is being cited?
After all, you have referred to this specific Wikipedia page in your comment, but you have still not provided the URL.
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Manning dumped a whole slew of stuff without any checking or vetting or anything else. Some of the stuff I saw in relationship to Italy, for instance, was just diplomatic personnel airing "what they really thought" about Silvio Berlusconi. These comments are the kind of thing that didn't do anyone any good to have dumped in public.
That was quite harmful. Nobody is going to talk to you in confidence if what they say, attributed, is going to get dumped on the internet.
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> Manning did it wrong, Snowden did it right. AFAIK, both Manning and Snowden released large quantities of information without reviewing all of it in detail for public interest vs. potential harm, and released it not to the public but to third parties that managed public release. The difference is that Manning released it to Assange and Snowden released it to more responsible journalists.
Yes, that is completely correct. Snowden released his information to journalists who carefully vetted each item for newsworthiness with the participation of the US government. Then that data was parceled out over many months, so it would remain in daily news cycles and continue to generate commentary over that time, staying in the public's mind. Manning gave her data to Wikileaks, who posted it online in its entirety…
>> "More than a million supporters of Edward Snowden have petitioned President Barack Obama to pardon him, but the former National Security Agency contractor hasn't submitted the required documents for clemency, according to the White House." Source: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/politics/snowden-no-clemency-r... Forms: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/application-forms ____ EDIT: Appears the only way to contact Ed is…
Snowden sought a position to access more information for his leaks and he leaked information on valid espionage programs along side the unconstitutional ones.
Let him live out his days in Russia, he paid for it with intelligence.
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I feel like by 2017 if someone hasn't become aware of trans issues it's because they're deliberately staying ignorant. I mean, this stuff is all over the news. Transgender people are constantly getting murdered and beaten, and people are even trying to prevent them from peeing in public bathrooms all the time . There are so many good resources about trans people online, and i expect a bunch of Smart and Rational and…
No offence, but you really sound angered and I feel somehow responsible--different people have different political views about all issues (everything is politics, after all) and we have to live with that fact. You are not going to convince others by insulting them. Also, HN is not the place to try and convince anybody to think the way you do, because that leads to flamewars (if you have an opinion, you'll stick to it…
Why is this no longer at the top of the front page? ~900 points in ~1 hour alone. Please, mods, some transparency?