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Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#251

Anyone got this set up and would be willing to test it against https://www.emailprivacytester.com and report back?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hie94302jtxcmx/Screenshot%202017-... (I work at Nylas.)

Is this image from before or after selecting "Load Remote Images", assuming Nylas has such a feature? Also, what is the default configuration? To load remote content, or to not?

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#252

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We really hope that Nylas Mail will be your cross-platform email app then. Being build on Electron allows us to support all three major platforms and we are 100% committed to it. Nylas Pro (formerly N1) already supports all three and Nylas Mail should be there in a couple of weeks, if 'e0m is to be trusted. :) (I work at Nylas.)

You announced your project with tons of fanfare but no Windows client. I realize MacOS is very popular amongst developers, but Windows has a 91% desktop OS marketshare. From a broad marketing perspective, you should have waited until the Windows client was available. When you finally release it in a week or a month, will you get another frontpage Hackernews post? Probably not.

Try the windows release here: https://github.com/nylas/N1/releases

I haven't tried it, but the Linux version works fine with a basic account.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#253
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JavaScript is NOT the first language to provide cross-platform GUI. Such toolkits are very old. Gtk, Qt, wxWidgets, and many others serve this functionality and have bindings across dozens of languages. There is no reason to use JavaScript just so you can get a "cross platform GUI".

Gtk is not very cross-platform. It looks non-native on Windows, and it's so non-native on macOS that you have to run an X server just to see it. wxWidgets seems to be abandoned (their bindings don't even have a Python 3 release, which would happen right away if anyone cared). Most of these provide dated UI elements that people don't want to work with. Qt perhaps is holding up the best, but I can see why people prefer…

> Gtk is not very cross-platform. It looks non-native on Windows, and it's so non-native on macOS that you have to run an X server just to see it.

This has not been true for years now. There is a native port of Gtk that does not require an X server. Gimp is available natively, as are other Gtk apps (Gnucash, Deluge, etc).

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#254
Ok I will try it again. I have to say when I used it during the trial, I liked it a lot. Love the inverse theme and the customization that is allowed. My only bad experience was, I ran the OS update that killed their app. It stopped updating with their server, then a week later started taunting me to pay money. It's not their fault the app stopped working. It was just bad timing that left a bitter taste in my mouth. I really do like the app and looking forward to reinstalling and configuring right now.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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> JavaScript is NOT the first language to provide cross-platform GUI. Of course it's not. > There is no reason to use JavaScript just so you can get a "cross platform GUI". The main reason (imho) is that "JavaScript" (as you call it, but you should say "the web platform") is more future proof than "old toolkits". Qt would be the best candidate for a "cross platform GUI", but you are relying on the [Qt company/nokia/w…

Your message left me scratching my head. How can JS be more future-proof than old UI toolkits when JS libraries and frameworks are constantly changing? Sure, nobody will kill HTML and JS, but that's not the point. Nobody knows how UIs will be built with web technologies in two years! Edit: based on your reply below, it looks like I have to spell it out. GUIs are built with UI frameworks, not just with programming lan…

> JS frameworks are so short-lived that one can't be sure if their code will still work in one year.

Versioning your dependencies is good practice regardless of language and has been for decades. Javascript has enough cons, you don't have to resort to imaginary ones.

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How about not using your servers for anything?

Unfortunately, we have to use an intermediate server to use Google OAuth.

The app looks great, but I just am not in favor of piping everything I have with email through your servers. Just a standalone app as basic version with opt-in for Google OAUth would justify its use case.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#257

How is this different than Mail and every other email client in existence? Don't get me wrong, it looks extremely good. However, I visited the site and immediately clicked on the back button. I've been using Google Inbox for a few months, and it radically changed how I handle my many mailboxes. It's not rare now that I actually achieve inbox zero. I would love to see the same amount of innovation that was put into Go…

> I think they might have acquired it, though?

Inbox is homegrown, not an acquisition.

(work at Google)

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

#258
This is amazing. I was using this client all the time until they were not free enough. The price was way too high imo so I stopped using it until today.
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