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Hello Everyone, Instead of responding to comments individually I wanted to make one comment (and one comment only) to the responses to this article. This is ONE of many strategies PeoplesHost employs to acquire customers. To address some questions or concerns others have mentioned in the comments made earlier: - The blog post is authentic. Jack is someone we reached out to earlier today. He responded by complimenting…
In my opinion, this is not hustling but ambulance chasing. Every tech company is going to have bad operational issue days. Going at your competitors customers regularly when your competitors have bad days will net you more negative reactions than positive, in my opinion.
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My reaction entirely. I wouldn't want to build my business up on these types of customers, because as quick as they left X and came to you, they'll leave you as well. Not to say that you shouldn't do your best to make sure your customers are always able to continue business, but like you said, everyone has their bad days. I'd choose to have loyal customers that aren't jumping on social media at the drop of a hat and…
To be honest, the hosting provider I use is so cheap I don't think there was too much loyalty to begin with.
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What is spam by the US definition?
I agree with this site about it: https://www.spamhaus.org/consumer/definition/ The key here would be unsolicited (yes) and bulk (possibly no). It is impossible to tell based on the blog post, but I find it less likely that there was a bot designed to find customers after a rival outage than a human doing it. If there was a bot however, that would be spam. I think many people on here would agree that it is annoying an…
The flaw in this definition is that the recipient has no way to tell whether a message was sent in bulk or not. After all, if spammers have a database with your address in it, they can have your name as well, or they can guess it from the email address and thus personalize the email you receive. And if the recipient can't tell whether a message was sent in bulk or not, then guilt can't be easily established, requiring a costly investigation from competent authorities.
The problem with email is that it's very cheap to send, much cheaper than making phone calls and the problem with spam is that if unaddressed, it renders your email address unusable, with important, legitimate email being lost in noise, so it does have a high cost for recipients. And that cost for recipients is the same, whether those emails where sent in bulk or not.
So you see, such a rule is designed to protect spammers, to shield them from legal liability.
Hello Everyone, Instead of responding to comments individually I wanted to make one comment (and one comment only) to the responses to this article. This is ONE of many strategies PeoplesHost employs to acquire customers. To address some questions or concerns others have mentioned in the comments made earlier: - The blog post is authentic. Jack is someone we reached out to earlier today. He responded by complimenting…
"We're spammers, but we work really hard at it!"
They also aren't pushing hard, this is essentially the softest sales-pitch that is actually a pitch.
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It's also literally spam - unsolicited advertisement.
Is it unsolicited when you post your issue on a public medium for all the world to see? I consider any such public announcement a direct request for the target's response and an indirect request for the public's response.
Not a huge fan of this to be honest. From my perspective as a user, I don't want businesses I have no involvement with contacting me out of the blue. It's not quite spam, but I would treat it largely the same. I'm also unsure that it's a good long term strategy for the business. It may generate some customers, but building a customer base on people who have A) shown themselves to be relatively fickle in choosing a ho…
But I know people around me making a lot of money with it. Because, unfortunaly:
- a lot of users open those mails;
- they read it;
- they click on the links;
- they don't report it as spam.
It sounds crazy, until you spend a lot of time working on website for people outside of your geek bubble.
I worked in porn quite a lot, and you see 80% of the male population in there. Spams work on them. Crazily stupid ads as well : "click to fuck now for free". Yes they do click. And yes they pay.
Hello Everyone, Instead of responding to comments individually I wanted to make one comment (and one comment only) to the responses to this article. This is ONE of many strategies PeoplesHost employs to acquire customers. To address some questions or concerns others have mentioned in the comments made earlier: - The blog post is authentic. Jack is someone we reached out to earlier today. He responded by complimenting…
That's not how this works. I mean, you can do whatever you want, but if you show up to a discussion, give a long rant, and then leave, I'm definitely labeling your comment a PR stunt and adding your company to my "never do business with them" list.
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"We're spammers, but we work really hard at it!"
I wouldn't call this spam. Specifically because it is prompted and truly individualized. Moreover, they use only intentionally public info (twitter and whois). They also aren't pushing hard, this is essentially the softest sales-pitch that is actually a pitch.
I suppose you could philosophically contort a meaning by which "it's not really spam if you squint", but if I get that garbage in my GMail I hammer that "report as spam" button so fast, and encourage everyone else to do likewise.