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Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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Re: Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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The people who cannot spend energy to control themselves and therefore curse are less prone to using self-control-dependent strategy of lies and deception. Wowsers.

Lying in the abstract is not a sign of self-control, nor is swearing a sign of a lack of it. Swearing and/or lying in specific contexts, possibly. Considering the context is facebook, i doubt swearing is a good proxy for lack of self-control

Re: Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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I like how comedian Jerry Seinfeld put it: "If you have to use profanity in a joke then you failed to nail it." Applies to other things as well. It may be a (crude) indication of honesty, but it is a clear indication of failure.

Yeah but here is the thing about Jerry,he is the only clean comic who is funny at all. Outside of him almost all the great comedians will throw a fuck or a shit in there. Dave Chappelle and Louie CK are far from failures.

Re: Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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post #20

I like how comedian Jerry Seinfeld put it: "If you have to use profanity in a joke then you failed to nail it." Applies to other things as well. It may be a (crude) indication of honesty, but it is a clear indication of failure.

Yeah but here is the thing about Jerry,he is the only clean comic who is funny at all. Outside of him almost all the great comedians will throw a fuck or a shit in there. Dave Chappelle and Louie CK are far from failures.

Bob Newhart would like a word with you. Specifically, as a one-sided phone conversation.

Re: Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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I don't buy it. I know people with clean language that I don't trust, and friends who swear that I do. But in general I see profanity and anger as a red flag in relationships to be heeded, because it shows a general lack of respect towards others.

Next thing you know, evil will be good and good will be evil. Oh, wait a sec...

Re: Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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post #24

I don't buy it. I know people with clean language that I don't trust, and friends who swear that I do. But in general I see profanity and anger as a red flag in relationships to be heeded, because it shows a general lack of respect towards others. Next thing you know, evil will be good and good will be evil. Oh, wait a sec...

Anecdotally, you have some supporting evidence but ultimately don't trust it. That seems silly.

You also conflate anger and profanity. Which is clearly a load of shit. They are distinct things.

I doubt it is cut and dried, but I'm interested in the research. And I distrust it as much because it confirms my general beliefs. And that should be a red flag for everyone.

Re: Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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post #22
post #20

I like how comedian Jerry Seinfeld put it: "If you have to use profanity in a joke then you failed to nail it." Applies to other things as well. It may be a (crude) indication of honesty, but it is a clear indication of failure.

Yeah but here is the thing about Jerry,he is the only clean comic who is funny at all. Outside of him almost all the great comedians will throw a fuck or a shit in there. Dave Chappelle and Louie CK are far from failures.

Bill Cosby was pretty funny in his day

Re: Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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post #24

I don't buy it. I know people with clean language that I don't trust, and friends who swear that I do. But in general I see profanity and anger as a red flag in relationships to be heeded, because it shows a general lack of respect towards others. Next thing you know, evil will be good and good will be evil. Oh, wait a sec...

Consider reading "On Bullshit" by Princeton's Harry Frankfurt. A distinguished moral philosopher, he regards bullshit itself as evidence of disrespect, not calling it out as such.

https://www.stoa.org.uk/topics/bullshit/pdf/on-bullshit.pdf

Re: Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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This should not be surprising. I'd say two things, which are related: 1) Profanity itself is a form of crude honestly - in any remotely genteel social setting - 'profanity' is usually politically costly. Would you swear in an interview? No. Ok - there are some times when 'people in power' can swear as a form of strength/power projection - but that aside ... People who 'control' their behaviour mostly to 'be polite' -…

People can handle a lot of context. It'd be totally unsurprising if the people you interact with professionally swear a lot more in other contexts.

Re: Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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post #12

The people who cannot spend energy to control themselves and therefore curse are less prone to using self-control-dependent strategy of lies and deception. Wowsers.

I don't think this should be downvoted, I think it is essentially correct. Only people who are 'learned communicators' have the amount of self control to both 'not swear' but also use their communication skills to curry favour, which may involve manipulating the truth subtly or egregiously. About 50% of the time, the 'raw truth' is a little rugged, and smart communicators learn how to 'change the tone' of information…

This 'learned communicators' thing is silly.

Pretty much everyone knows they aren't supposed to swear at a priest. Many of the ones that do anyway are being transgressive.

Re: Study Finds Link Between Profanity and Honesty

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This should not be surprising. I'd say two things, which are related: 1) Profanity itself is a form of crude honestly - in any remotely genteel social setting - 'profanity' is usually politically costly. Would you swear in an interview? No. Ok - there are some times when 'people in power' can swear as a form of strength/power projection - but that aside ... People who 'control' their behaviour mostly to 'be polite' -…

"Would you swear in an interview? No."

Yes. And if someone held it against me it's unlikely to be a place I want to work.

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