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Re: Don't Give Silicon Valley More H1B Visas

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Post by theshadowmonkey » Tue, Jan 17, 2017, 1:24 AM UTC

badminton1 wrote: post #62

Economy follows the path of least resistance and cheaper labor through H-1B is that path now. But taking away visas does not mean everyone will happily employ local computer science graduates. This is what is more likely to happen: - Coding camps have lower requirements (notably cost), graduate people faster, and are proliferating quickly. Those will drive wages down. - Investment will start going to other countries.…

H1Bs do not work for minimum wage jobs. Why then is the minimum wage not rising ? If you do not consider the Indian consulting companies, H1B get paid higher or on par with most Americans and most have graduate degrees.

Re: Don't Give Silicon Valley More H1B Visas

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Post by theshadowmonkey » Tue, Jan 17, 2017, 1:32 AM UTC

The author gets most of the things wrong in this article. Even though H1B is not an immigration intent visa, most H1Bs come with an intention to stay here. If you give them a chance to stay in the United States, they'll happily stay here. Right now the time to get a greencard is anywhere between 7-15 years for citizens of India and China. H1Bs include students who got their graduate degrees at a lot of good universities and want to work, start a family here, just not people who move exclusively for jobs. Even with a lot of wait, people are rady to wait so long to get their greencards. H1B is not indenture. With little hassle, you can easily move employers if you are smart. Make the regulations strict on consulting companies who abuse the process. They play a volume game where they apply so many visas to improve their probability. A lot of small companies looking to hire engineers and ready to pay market wages miss out since their chance of getting a H1B is less.

Re: Don't Give Silicon Valley More H1B Visas

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Post by badminton1 » Tue, Jan 17, 2017, 4:55 AM UTC

theshadowmonkey wrote: post #71

badminton1 wrote: post #62

Economy follows the path of least resistance and cheaper labor through H-1B is that path now. But taking away visas does not mean everyone will happily employ local computer science graduates. This is what is more likely to happen: - Coding camps have lower requirements (notably cost), graduate people faster, and are proliferating quickly. Those will drive wages down. - Investment will start going to other countries.…

H1Bs do not work for minimum wage jobs. Why then is the minimum wage not rising ? If you do not consider the Indian consulting companies, H1B get paid higher or on par with most Americans and most have graduate degrees.

I was implicitly referring the context of technology.