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2017 Levchin Prize for Real World Cryptography

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Re: 2017 Levchin Prize for Real World Cryptography

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Moxie Marlinspike and Trevor Perrin. Most of the novel cryptography in Signal Protocol is Trevor's; it's good for people to know who he is.

Reprising a previous thread:

The prizes went to Joan Daemen, for AES and SHA-3 (on stage, Levchin pointed out that his interest in cryptography had been piqued by a xeroxed copy of DES when he was in school, and that it was an honor to present an award to one of the people who replaced the DES), and --- more notably, I think --- to Moxie Marlinspike and Trevor Perrin for their work on Signal.

Last year's winners were Phil Rogaway (a cryptographer of repute comparable to that of Daemen) and the miTLS team (of Triple Handshake, SMACK, FREAK, Logjam, and SLOTH fame).

Re: 2017 Levchin Prize for Real World Cryptography

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post #3

Moxie Marlinspike and Trevor Perrin. Most of the novel cryptography in Signal Protocol is Trevor's; it's good for people to know who he is. Reprising a previous thread: The prizes went to Joan Daemen, for AES and SHA-3 (on stage, Levchin pointed out that his interest in cryptography had been piqued by a xeroxed copy of DES when he was in school, and that it was an honor to present an award to one of the people who re…

Trevor Perrin also went on and created the Noise protocol framework (of which some protocols are quite similar to Signal).

Re: 2017 Levchin Prize for Real World Cryptography

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Not OP, but I sense perhaps a limitation of HN; articles with comments where the comment is the submission get conflated with submissions about the article itself.

(EDIT: the submission's URL has now been changed from a particular reddit comment at https://www.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/5m0zpo/moxie_marlin... to a different announcement about the prize. The rest of my post as it originally stood follows.)

Reproducing the subject matter of the submission for discussion's sake:

dionyziz says:

I think Moxie decided not to be recorded for his acceptance speech. He said something very nice during his speech however, and I'll try to phrase it like he did:

If you watch videos of politicians giving speeches in the 1930's, you observe the fascist leaders who gladly accept an applause from the audience because they have earned it. They feel they are responsible for it, that they are the creators of history. On the contrary, if you observe a communist leader, they will applaud with the audience in every chance. This is because they have a different belief system, that of historical materialism, that history is a force of its own, unstoppable and inevitable, that drives what is happening in the world equipped with the momentum of what has happened in the past. These leaders feel they are simply the bearer of history, the tool that history chose to run its course, so they applaud together with the audience for history.

Similarly, today, we have a similar force, and that is technology. I once had the chance to meet Mark Zuckerberg. When I met him, a thought occurred to me: I could, right there... kill him. [audience laughs] I never thought I would get so close. But would that really change anything? Us technologists are the bearers of technological momentum. We make things happen, because the time has come for them to happen. And now is the time for strong encryption and crypto.

[audience applauds together with Moxie]

Re: 2017 Levchin Prize for Real World Cryptography

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What I struggle with, especially when it's someone that clearly has great integrity, is the apparent need to favour one group of tyrants over another. The idea that communist leaders felt any different at all to the fascist ones seems delusional to me. They simply had different tropes, different conventions. I had the same feeling seeing everyone praise Fidel Castro while simultaneously gnashing their teeth about Trump.

Why can't we just accept that tyrants are tyrants, regardless of the particular ideology that has catapulted them into position? If we did perhaps we'd accept the need to overcome our primitive attitudes to leadership and charisma.

Re: 2017 Levchin Prize for Real World Cryptography

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Mods: a more appropriate title is "Moxie Marlinspike and Trevor Perrin win 2017 RWC Levchin Prize for Signal", and a more appropriate link would be to pretty much anything but an individual Reddit comment; how about this one?

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/2017-levchin-prize-real-world...

Re: 2017 Levchin Prize for Real World Cryptography

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Moxie Marlinspike and Trevor Perrin. Most of the novel cryptography in Signal Protocol is Trevor's; it's good for people to know who he is. Reprising a previous thread: The prizes went to Joan Daemen, for AES and SHA-3 (on stage, Levchin pointed out that his interest in cryptography had been piqued by a xeroxed copy of DES when he was in school, and that it was an honor to present an award to one of the people who re…

Trevor Perrin also went on and created the Noise protocol framework (of which some protocols are quite similar to Signal).

Interesting, didn't know he was also involved with that one.

Has anyone seen a table comparing Noise, Axoltl & OTRv4?

Re: 2017 Levchin Prize for Real World Cryptography

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Mods: a more appropriate title is "Moxie Marlinspike and Trevor Perrin win 2017 RWC Levchin Prize for Signal", and a more appropriate link would be to pretty much anything but an individual Reddit comment; how about this one? https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/2017-levchin-prize-real-world...

Thanks! We've updated the link from https://www.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/5m0zpo/moxie_marlin... and the title from “Moxie Marlinspike Receives RWC Levchin Prize 2017 for Signal Protocol Invention”.

Re: 2017 Levchin Prize for Real World Cryptography

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post #5

Not OP, but I sense perhaps a limitation of HN; articles with comments where the comment is the submission get conflated with submissions about the article itself. (EDIT: the submission's URL has now been changed from a particular reddit comment at https://www.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/5m0zpo/moxie_marlin... to a different announcement about the prize. The rest of my post as it originally stood follows.) Reproduci…

I shouldn't judge based on a remembered, secondhand, out of context quote, but this sounds kind of... pretentious.
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